Notice - This is a very old FAQ from the Honda Performance website.   I have included it here since it contains a great deal of excellent technical information that is no longer found in any of the FAQ's. Please do not email me or the Honda Performance site with questions relating to it.  I have also removed any email addresses since many of the contributors to this FAQ are no longer invloved with the Honda scene.  Also do not expect many of the website links to work since this faq is very old. 

0.0 Table of contents
    Dictionary

1.0 Purpose/Background/Administrative/Tuning Primer

   1.1	What's the purpose of this FAQ? 
   1.2	Who runs this FAQ? Who gets blamed?
   1.3	What other Honda resources are on the Web?
   1.4	Who can contribute to the FAQ?
   1.5	I wanna jump on the Honda hop-up band wagon.
   	What do I do? (Tuning Primer)
   1.6	I want more "low end", how will modifications affect this?
   1.7	How will modifications hurt the life of the engine?
   1.8	What are some good books/magazines/links to check out?
   1.9	I have a question about working on my car, does this FAQ answer it?
   1.10	Do aftermarket parts void my warranty?
   1.11	What will my emissions be like after modifications?
   1.12	How will OBD-II (on board diagnostics) respond to modifications?
   1.13	Where can I go to find information on people's cars?
   1.14	I've heard about this Ken Woods guy, why does does he act the way he does?
   1.15	Why do people get so excited about so-and-so's car is 
        faster than someone else's car?
   1.16	What are the golden rules?
   1.17	What is a "rice boy"?


2.0  BreakDown --> Models and Generations & Analysis

	Accord

	Civics

	CRX

	delSol

	Integra

	Legend

	NSX

	Prelude

	TL, RL, CL

	Vigor


3.0  Engines
   3.0	Engine Basics
   3.1	What engine oil should I use? How often should I change it?
   3.2	What's the difference between SOHC versus DOHC?
   3.3	What's VTEC?
   3.4	How often should I adjust my valves?
   3.5	What is a porting & polished head job?
   3.6	What benefit do I get from changing camshafts?
   3.7	What are cam sprockets? What do they do?
   3.8	What models and engines are out there?
   3.9	Can the [xxx] engine be swapped into the [xxx] chassis?
   3.10	What do I need to know before rebuilding my engine?
   3.11	Do reprogrammed computer chips work?
   3.12	Who makes the best VTEC cam?
   3.13	What's a milled head?
   3.14	Should I buy a VTEC controller? Can I make my own?
   3.15	Can I just swap a VTEC cylinder head onto my non-VTEC motor?
   3.16	What does a lightened crankshaft pulley do for me and who makes them?
   3.17	What does an underdrive pulley do?
   3.18	What's a blueprinted engine?
   3.19	What's shotpeening?
   3.20	What VTEC camshafts are compatible with each other?
   3.21	How do I break in an engine?
   3.22	Why is there a difference between USA and JDM engine power outputs?
   3.23	Why do you give those valves an angled seat?
   3.24	Any cures for a rough idle due to a camshaft(s) swap?
   3.25	Comparison of B18A/B to B18C Integra engines


4.0	Intake System
   4.1	Why do I need a cold air intake?
   4.2	What's ram air?
   4.3	What air filter is the best? Will more dirt be let in?
   4.4	What intake system is the best?
   4.5	What's a bored out throttle body?
   4.6	What's the coolant bypass modification?
   4.7	Why does my car idle bad after a t-body swap?
   4.8	Why do I need to port match my intake manifold?
   4.9	What is extrude hone?
   4.10	What's a resonator? Why should I remove it?
   4.11	Why should I adjust my throttle cable?
   4.12	Is there hope for a 1.5 SOHC with the lousy intake?
   4.13	What is the Tornado and how does it work?
   4.14	How do I clean a HKS filter?


5.0	Exhaust Systems
   5.1	How loud do exhausts get?
   5.2	Which manufactured cat back system is the best?
   5.3	I wanna save money and get a custom exhaust. What do I need to get?
   5.4	What are headers?
   5.5	Who makes the best headers?
   5.6	How much power will I get by removing my catalytic converter?
   5.7	What are the legal consequences of removing my catalytic converter?
   5.8	Should I get a ceramic coated or stainless steel header?
   5.9	Should I buy a high-flow catalytic converter?


6.0	NOS
   6.1	Assorted Nitrous Oxide Information
   6.2	How much NOS can my stock engine take?
   6.3	What kind of gains should I expect with NOS?
   6.4	How much does a refill of NOS Cost (15 pounds)?
   6.5	What causes NOS backfire? Why should I use a purge valve?
   6.6	Real World NOS Damage Stories


7.0	Supercharging
   7.1	What is it like ordering a supercharger from Jackson Racing?
   7.2	Are there any customer testomonials for the Jackson Racing supercharger?
   7.3	Why do I have to use a stock engine with a Jackson Racing supercharger?


8.0	Turbocharging
   8.1	What's in a DRAG turbo kit system?
   8.2	Does VTEC work well with turbocharging?
   8.3	How much horsepower will a Greddy Bolt-On Turbo Civic make?
   8.4	How is boost regulated?
   8.5	What's the difference between a manual and an electronic boost controller?
   8.6	What's the best boost controller?
   8.7	What's a blow off valve? Do I need it adjustable?
   8.8	Does a turbocharged motor really need no backpressure?
   8.9	Does a turbocharger add a significant restriction in the exhaust path?
   8.10	Is boost all that matters, what's CFM have to do with it?
   8.11	Do turbochargers really lag that much?
   8.12	Why use an intercooler, if the intercooler itself creates a restriction?>


9.0	Ignition
   9.1	Will changing my plug wires give me more hp?
   9.2	What kind of plugs should I use?
   9.3	What does a colder/hotter plug mean?
   9.4	Why do I need to upgrade my ignition system?
   9.5	How does advancing timing improve power?
   9.6	How do I advance my timing?
   9.7	What does indexing plugs do and how do I do it?
   9.8	When should I widen my spark plug gap?
   9.9	Why should I examine my spark plugs?
   9.10	What good is an ignition unit rev limiter?
   9.11	Do Nology wires deliver horsepower improvements?
   9.12	[VTEC] Should I run stock platinum plugs or switch to copper?


10.0  Transmission
   10.1	Why does my transmission crunch during shifts? How do I fix it?
   10.2	What's clutch chatter?
   10.3	What's a good performance clutch to get?
   10.4	Why should I lighten my flywheel?
   10.5	What's a limited slip differential (LSD)?
   10.6	Should I use a Type R LSD or Quaiffe?
   10.7	If I have a LSD, do I need to care for it differently?
   10.8	What kind of aftermarket flywheels are out there?
   10.9	Is my speedometer accurate when I am gunning for a top speed run?
   10.10 How hard is it to convert an automatic transmission to a manual one?
   10.11 How do I make modify my own shifter to have a shorter throw?
   10.12 What's all this about gear ratios? Why mix and match trannies?


11.0  Brakes
   11.1	What's brake fade?
   11.2	What performance brake pads do I buy?
   11.3	Why should I use cross drilled/slotted rotors?
   11.4	What kind of brake fluid should I use?
   	What's wet and dry boiling temperature?
   11.5	Do aftermarket brake lines improve stopping distances?
   11.6	Who makes brake lines? And is DOT approval necessary?
   11.7	How are brake fluids classified?


12.0	Wheels
   12.0	Wheel basics (offset, diameter, width)
   12.1	I wanna get a set of wheels, how do I make sure they're gonna fit?
   12.2 How do I buy the best set of wheels for handling and acceleration?
   12.3 What's a hubcentric wheel? Why do I need hubcentric adapters?


13.0	Tires
   13.1	Will I really sacrifice my ride comfort with low profile tires?
   13.2	What's a good tire pressure to set?
   13.3	How do I pick a good tire?
   13.4	Why do my tires wear out fast on my lowered Honda?


14.0	Suspension

14a.0 	Springs
   14a.1 How low can I go?
   14a.2 What's the difference between a progressive versus linear rate spring?
   14a.3 Do I need new struts if I get lowering springs?
   14a.4 I want to cheap out and cut my springs. Why shouldn't I?
   14a.5 Do I need to realign my car once lowering springs are installed?
   14a.6 What's for the formula for spring rate?

14b.0	Struts/Shocks
   14b.1 What's compression and rebound? Why adjust both?
   14b.2 Should I get adjustable or non-adjustable struts/shocks?
   14b.3 Should I cut my bumpstops if I lower my car?
   14b.4 Why do my Tokico Illuminas bottom out so much on my 3rd Gen Integra?

14c.0	Swaybars
   14c.1 How do sway bars work?
   14c.2 Should I disconnect my front sway bar?
   14c.3 Should I only get a rear sway bar?

14d.0	Chassis Braces/Roll cages

14e.0	Misc suspension components
   14e.1 I've heard of camber kits to correct my lowered Honda's negative
         camber problem. How do they work and who makes them?
   14e.2 Why should I upgrade my bushings to poly-urethane ones?
   14e.3 What kind of alignment settings should I get?
   14e.4 How does lowering one end of the car affect weight distribution?

15.0	How to drive, and misc. racing questions
   15.1	So what 1/4 mile times can I expect for [xxx] mods?
   15.2	What's my 1/4 mile time? What's trap speed and what's E.T?
   15.3	I wanna go to a real drag race track, 
         what kinds of things do I need to know? Drag Racing 101)
   15.4	What's speed shifting and what's power shifting?
   15.5	How do I calculate horsepower from trapspeed?

 

Dictionary

 

AEM	Advanced Engine Management - a tuning shop specializing in
	building engines, aftermarket EFI, and carbs.

   CFM	Cubic Feet Per Minute - unit of volumetric speed

   DOHC	Dual Over Head Camshafts - 2 camshafts placed on top
	of the valves.

   DOT	Department Of Transportation - US Federal agency regulating
	various aspects of transportation (more importantly automobiles)

   DPR	Dan Paramore Racing - a speed&machine shop performs engine work
	work and modifications with some custom fabrication

   EFI	Eelectronic Fuel Injection - currently considered any system using a
	microprocessor (i.e. a computer) connected to assorted sensors in order
        to adjust (most importantly) fuel
	delivery and timing.

   ES	Export Specification refers to manufacturer altering
	product specifications for export.

   FF	refers to a drivetrain layout consisting of Front engine, Front wheel
	drive

   FPR   Fuel Pressure Regulator
        drive

   FR   refers to a drivetrain layout consisting of Front engine, Rear wheel
        drive

   JDM  Japan Domestic Market

   JG   JG Engine Dynamics - a speed&machine shop performs engine 
        work and modifications
	with some custom fabrication. Some people say "Just Garbage", 
        still they are
        responsible for some very fast Hondas.

   P&P	Port & Polish - a cylinder head modification, see
	engine section in FAQ

   PYR	Peter Yem Racing - a speed&machine shop performs engine work
	work and modifications with some custom fabrication

   PSI  Pounds Per Sqaure Inch - unit of pressure (lbs/in^2), metric unit
	is bar

   Riceboy   (derogatory) a person who customizes an Asian import 
             car to assume the look
             of performance instead of actually doing the performance. 
             Ignorance is usually factored into this slam.

   SOHC Single Over Head Camshaft - single camshaft
        placed over the valves.


1.0 Purpose/Background/Administrative/Tuning Primer

1.1 What's the purpose of this FAQ?

This document tries to answer many frequently asked questions Honda
   performance enthusiasts ask.  This FAQ makes no attempt to be the 
    complete OR accurate
   source of automotive information. It's the opinion of the FAQ editor that the
   reader is responsible for their own automotive enlightenment. There are many
   quality books that explain automotive performance. A trip to the library
   might be in order.

   It should be noted that front wheel drive cars are not the optimum
   configuration for total performance. In drag racing and cornering, different
   tricks and driving skills are needed to make a FWD car go fast. Make sure you
   REALLY want to make a FWD car fast.


1.2 Who runs this FAQ? Who gets blamed?

Currently, J.S. presides as Editor of the FAQ. Other FAQ assistants
   are J.B. and A.C.. Some other honorable mentions are the unnamed
   editors of the Integra web page.

   You can blame/flame us all you want, but we take no legal responsibility for
   the information contained within. Your car is your car, and how you hurt it
   is all on you.

   If you find some FAQ information to be controversial, please respond politely.
   Polite opposing viewpoints will be noted in the FAQ. Rude ones will be
   deleted on sight. In addition, please do not bombard the FAQ editor with
   questions. The editor merely maintains the FAQ and doesn't have
   the time or resources to answer everyone's personal questions.

   The tone of the FAQ maybe construed as anti-performance Honda. This is far
   from the truth. It's been proven that Hondas can be made to go fast, but
   novice Honda performance-minded individuals should be given as much
   resistance to ensure that hopping up their Honda is really what she/he
   wants to do. Let's face it, money doesn't grow on trees for all of us. If it
   did, you'd probably already have a really fast fast fast Honda
   (or maybe something else). It's gonna take some money, time, and lots of
   patience. And please take what speed shops say with a grain of salt, in
   some cases a big one.


1.3 What other Honda resources are on the Web?

Keeping tabs on all the current web pages would be just as hard as keeping
   tabs on all the import speed shops cropping up and dying off. Currently the
   Honda Performance jump gate is the Temple Of VTEC maintained by J.P..

   The current URL is : http://www.vtec.net/


1.4 Who can contribute to the FAQ?

Anyone can! If you have pertinent information please forward it to the FAQ
   Editor. You will be credited with the information accordingly
   (so watch out for the flames!)


1.5 I wanna jump on the Honda hop-up band wagon. What do I do first? (Tuning Primer)

Join the crowd!

   The SINGLE biggest modification you can do to your car is to yourself. Make
   sure you understand how to shift, launch, and corner. There are many books
   and Internet resources discussing driving technique. You can have the
   fastest car in the world and still only drive it as good as another person
   in a Pinto.

   Remember when choosing your performance parts, be sure to upgrade components
   the furthest away from the motor and then closer. So get rid of the extremity
   bottle necks before working on bottlenecks in the motor itself.
   In other words, perform your modifications into the motor. Not haphazardly.
   (i.e. 1) intake 2) exhaust 3) headers 4) throttle body 5) intake manifold
   6) camshafts 7) sprockets 8) cylinder head etc etc )

   Here's a short and sweet tuning primer.
   Golden Rule 1) Ask yourself, "How much money do I have?"
   Golden Rule 2) Now ask yourself, "How fast do I want to go?"

   #2 is only limited by #1. So now pick your tuning path based on these
   decisions. Do you want to stay normally aspirated? Turbocharged?
   Supercharged? Or even nitrous oxide assisted?

   Normally Aspirated : The engine alone is responsible for ingesting as
   much air as possible. And remember air is never 100% oxygen.

   Turbocharged : A snail shell looking device that is driven off exhaust
   gases (imagine 2 pinwheels attached on a axle) As the exhaust wheel spins,
   the intake wheel compresses air packing it into the engine. Choosing the
   correct turbocharger is essential for optimum performance.

   Supercharged : A belt driven compressor that forces air into the engine.
   A supercharger functions similarly to a turbocharger. The difference
   is the supercharger spins by a belt attached to the crankshaft pulley
   (much like your A/C, power steering, and alternator)

   Nitrous Oxide :

   mail@removed.com (Lowbuck Brawler aka Weyland Jung)
   Nitrous oxide is made up of 2 parts nitrogen and one part oxygen
   (36% oxygen by weight). During the combustion process in an engine, at about
   572 degrees F., nitrous breaks down and releases oxygen. This extra oxygen
   creates additional power by allowing more fuel to be burned. Nitrogen acts to
   buffer, or dampen the increased cylinder pressures helping to control the
   combustion process. Nitrous also has a tremendous "intercooling" effect by
   reducing intake charge temperatures by 60 to 75 degrees F.

   Each has it's pros and cons. It's a good idea to understand them all before
   proceeding with modifications.

   Frank Lin (mail@removed.com) offers the following :
   Okay, basically there are three ways to improve an engine's performance.

   - Mechanical efficiency
   - Volumetric efficiency
   - Thermo efficiency

   ME improvements - lighten/blance rotating engine assembly, increase
   maxium operating RPM, reduce driventrain less (lighter rims, tranny
   box improvement.)

   VE improvements - intake, header, exhaust, manifolds, head work,
   forced induction, cam profile/timing...

   TE improvements - compression ratio, ignition, air/fuel ratio,
   thermo barrier coatings.

   So also keep these areas in mind when modifying your vehicle 
    for maximum performance!


1.6 I want more "low end", how will modifications affect this?

Golden Rule 3) "There is no replacement for displacement."

   Here's a cold hard reality check, Honda small displacement 4 cylinder
   engines tend to be high revving horsepower geared engines. They do not
   produce a healthy amount of torque WITHOUT some serious modifications. And
   even then, most of this power will not come beneath 3,000 RPM.

   Thankfully Hondas are fortunate enough to have reasonably light chassis
   and a good gearing. Thus with the moderate amount of torque and higher amount
   of horsepower they get by just fine. ;D

   But if you truly seek that 1,000 RPM 300ft-lbs of torque, perhaps you should
   buy a V8 engine car.


1.7 How will modifications hurt the life of the engine?

Asking your engine to make more power places greater wear and tear on it.
   It's a fact of life. Regular maintenance and keeping an eye on performance
   modifications are essential to engine life. If your modifications are bolt
   on ones, you really don't have to worry.


1.8 What are some good books to check out?

Helm Factory Service Manual (get it from your local Honda/Acura dealer)
   Helm's # : 800-782-4356


   Secrets of Solo Racing
   Handling, what it is and how to get it.
   Honda/Acura Driver/Owner Guide
   Turbochargers by Hugh MacInnes

   From: Kurt Bilinski (mail@removed.com)
   "
   "Race Car Vehicle Dynamics" by Milliken and Milliken
   All the "... To Win" books by Smith
   "Race and Rally Car Source Book" by Staniforth
   "Chassis Engineering" by Adams
   "Race Car Engineering and Mechanics" by Van Valkenburgh
   "Racing and Sports Car Chassis Design" by Constin and Phipps
   "Race Car Aerodynamics" by Katz
   "How to Make Your Car Handle" by Puhn

   This stuff has known for years, let's use it.  It's not like
   these books are hard to find, just call Classic MotorBooks who's
   ad is always in Road and Track, or 1-800-826-6600 and ask for a catalog."

   From: "Shawn P. Church" (mail@removed.com)
   "I did find a cool new book called "High Performance Honda Builder's Handbook"
   by Joe Pettit.  I thumbed through and decided to buy it (<$20).  Seems
   pretty cool and does have a section on turbocharging, specifically with
   help from Turbonetics and RPS.  I'll figure this stuff out yet.  This
   book seems like a must read for new Honda people, might save us a lot of
   time (published late 1996).  It also has all the engine codes, valve
   sizes, compression ratios, combustion cc's, etc. so if the FAQ needs
   anything, let me know."

   From: ben (mail@removed.com)
   "Honda builder's handbook by joe pettit
   $14.75 available through Summit racing 1.800.230.3030"

   Magnecor adds in :
   We have listed a new Honda tech. book [the above mentioned] on our web site
   that may interest you (we have no financial interest in the book, but we
   are helping the writer out). It is a useful book.
   It is at: http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/HONDA1.htm

   From : Ken Woods (mail@removed.com)
   "Actually, after thinking about this for a cpl of seconds, I decided to
   give y'all a cpl of books to read.  They include:

   Showroom Stock Race Car Prep
   by Nigel Macknight

   Winning Autocross Solo II Competition
   by Richard Turner and J.B. Miles

   Race Car Enginerring and Mechanics
   by Paul Van Valkenburgh

   Auto Math Handbook
   by John Lawlor"

   From : Jerome Soh (mail@removed.com)
   "Any of the "To Win" series by Carol Smith, Performance Handling by Don
   Alexander (easy reading), Race Car Vehicle Dynamics by Milliken (_very_
   involved, not for the mathematically challenged... but all in all
   considered the 'bible')"



   Super Street Magazine
   Turbo & Hi-Tech Performance Magazine
   Grassroots Motorsports Magazine
   Sport Compact Car Magazine sorry, you will have to search for it here

   Your favorite nudey magazine (recommended for periods of depression when you have
   the need for speed, but not enough speed)

   Thanks to Perry (mail@removed.com) for the good URL (Physics of Racing) :
   http://members.home.net/rck/phor/"


1.9 I have a question about working on my car, does this FAQ answer it?

No. This is a Honda Performance FAQ currently. Although many enthusiasts
   perform the modifications themselves, the FAQ would grow
   exponentially if we included detailed how-to steps for every
   possible performance modification. My best advice is purchase
   your Helm mechanic manual for your car. It has very detailed
   explanations on how to work on the car. Then if you're still
   confused, consult the list.


1.10 Do aftermarket parts void my warranty?

Only if they've been proven to be the cause of the problem.
   The burden of proof does rest on the dealership.
   IMNSHO, Honda/Acura does a poor job of customer satisfaction
   as other owners and myself are usually given the run around
   for problems clearly resulting from manufacturing defects.
   YMMV, so you may want to restore the modifications back to stock
   in order for the warranty process to be smoother.


1.11 What will my emissions be like after modifications?

Usually all the bolts on will actually lean out your motor while at speed.
   Your only big problem is passing the idle portion of your local smog test.
   Every state/country has its own regulations so check with your local
   sources. If your modifications have sacrificed air flow down low
   you can expect your idle emissions to be rich.

   California checks for three categories : HC(PPM)    CO(%)    CO2(%)
   The latter two are (I think!) unimportant as they are checks to ensure
   that you truly are burning gas and the percentages are all correct
   (you're not venting some exhaust elsewhere).

   A 1993 Acura Integra LS has a .100ppm HC limit to pass in California.
   With the catalytic converter in place with full bolt on modifications
   it had a reading of .001 ppm. Without the cat, HC soared to .224.
   Quite illegal.

   Robert Wong (mail@removed.com) had these results :
          HC(PPM)    CO(%)     CO2(%)
   Limit     220      1.20
   Reading    93      0.05     15.1
   Results  PASS      PASS

   1993 Honda Civic Si Hatchback
   Iceman Wetland Intake
   GReddy Exhaust
   DC Sports Header
   Advanced Timing

   From: Philip M. Cohn (mail@removed.com)
   "I just had my integra 91 inspected in maryland.  All the units for the
   test were in GPM not ppm, what is the difference, and if so what do my
   readings of mean.

  	  	hydrocarbons	Carbon Monox	Nitrous Ox   Carbon Diox
   state regs	1.25 gpm	20.0 gpm	2.5 gpm	     no reg
   my car	.25 gpm		3.9 gpm		.3 gpm	     147.4 gpm

   AEM intake mod only

   From: Michael Paul Dietz (mail@removed.com)
          HC(PPM)    CO(%)     CO2(%)
   Limit     220      1.20
   Reading   136      0.57     11.9
             PASS     PASS

   Turbocharged 1995 GS-R w/ no cat.


1.12 How will OBD-II (on board diagnostics) respond to modifications?

From: patrick(mail@removed.com)
   "As long as the air/fuel ratio is acceptable to OBD-II then there are no
   problems.  So as long as you give the car the additional fuel it needs w/
   the nitrous then there will be absolutely no problems."

   From: Ed (mail@removed.com)
   "A friend installed a test pipe in his 96 GS-R today, and so far
   no "check engine" light turning on. The test pipe has bungs welded in
   for the O2 sensors, and was driven for at least 2 hours."

   "Since your car is a pre-OBD II vehicle, the check engine light shouldn't
   turn on when installing a test pipe. In OBD II (96-on) Hondas/Acuras, the second
   O2 sensor is supposed to check catalytic converter efficiency by comparing its
   readings with the first O2 sensor (which is what you have). Now that there is no
   cat, does the ECU see this as an extremely efficient cat, or as a bad reading?
   From this "experiment", I guess the OBD II system is compatible with a test
   pipe."

   From: Andre Sisman (mail@removed.com)
   "I had my test pipe for 94 gsr, the engine light will not go on unless you
   disconnect the oxygen sensor.  If you install the O2 sensor properly, the
   engine will work normally."


1.13 Where can I go to find information on people's cars?

There are numerous car specific pages that have owner registries setup.
   However EuJin has created an entire Honda Performance List registry at
   http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/9391/hpregistry.html.
   Be sure to swing by and check out Who's Who.


1.14 I've heard about this Ken Woods guy, why does does he act the way he does?

From: mail@removed.comt (Jeff Kipe)
   "Kaz,  what do you think about adding a "beware Ken Woods" to the FAQ??"

   DONE! Although I'm not Kazz, I'd figured I'll stick this bit in and humor
   Jeff Kipe and Ken Woods. :D

   Calling Ken Woods frank and outspoken would be an understatement.
   Although he tends to promote an image of an ill-tempered arrogant car
   enthusiast, he's a very knowledgable wrencher as well as a competent drag racer
   (However I'm sure he has a nice side. I have learned that in private mail,
   he willingly helps out the less knowledgable folk on Honda-Performance
   List still. And I don't think he does it for an ego-stroking!)

   Call him the Dennis Rodman of the Honda Performance List if you will! ;D

   So beware! If you happen to post something foolish or ignorantly post
   misguided technical information, Ken may respond in fury!

   From : "Rick Kimmel" (mail@removed.com)
   "To everyone offended by Ken:

   It just amazes me how thin some people's skins are these days.  They get a
   bruised ego from WORDS and take everything so damn personally.  Get real.
   Life doesn't work that way.  You either learn to get used to people like Ken
   or you spend your whole life being a thought police or trying to get even or
   trying to show up people.

   You can't control Ken, but you can control how you feel about him.  Trying
   the former is a waste of time and effort because it will get you nowhere.
   He's outside your circle of influence.  So learn how to deal with it
   yourself.  If you don't like his posts, don't read them and don't reply to
   them.  If you read them, don't take them so personally.  It's one person's
   opinion.  You can agree or disagree, but you have no right and no ability to
   tell him what he can think or say.  Doing so will only result in him
   asserting his rights (in his own style, of course).  Think about this for a
   while.

   Ken's one of the more sane and knowledgeable people on this list, especially
   when it comes to drag racing, and I'm glad he's sticking around through all
   this crap that some people on this list spew at him."


1.15 Why do people get so excited about so-and-so's car is faster than someone else's car?

Honestly, I don't know why. When you really think about it for sometime, it all
   comes down to who can write the bigger check. 
    So what if you have a 18 second car?!?!
   It just means you have less money than someone with a 10 second car.
   Duh! The real point is to enjoy what you have and to have fun enhancing it.


1.16 What are the golden rules?

Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you.

   Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

   If you have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything.

   Change what you cannot accept, accept what you cannot change.

   Ignorance is bliss, but knowledge is power.

   It's easy to make enemies, harder to make friends.

   Forgive and forget.

   No one forces you to read every HP-list post.

   Repeat after me : Courtesy, Patience, Tolerance, Maturity, and Respect

1.17 What is a "rice boy"?

I don't know the original person who coined the term, but it has become
   quite popular.

   This term describes an individual who accessories a vehicle in such a
   way that performance is simulated mostly via looks or the actual
   modifications have hurt the car more than helped. Possible synonyms are
   "wanna be" or "poser".

   Various telltale signs are really large wheels and tires on cars
   that don't have the torque to move them, cut springs, stickers plastered all
   over, gaudy racing stripes, etc etc etc ...

   Check out the original Rice Boy HomePage at http://riceboy.simplenet.com/riceboy/
   for more information.


2.0 BreakDown Models and Generations, Analysis

 

Accord
		1986-1989	3rd Gen
		1990-1993	4th Gen
		1994-1997	5th Gen
		1998-2001	6th Gen (coming soon!)

	Performance Analysis : Why? Now before the flames start coming in,
	the rantings of the DC Sports SiR followers, and the
	Neuspeed Touring Car follower, let me just say the Accord is supposed
	to be a comfortable sedan. And no street sedan is ever gonna come close
	to a race prepped Touring Car. If you're still stubborn
	to hop up your Accord, remember GR#1 and GR#2. Then ask
	yourself why you just didn't start with a Prelude VTEC in the
	first place.

	Civics
		1984-1987	3rd Gen
			base engine
				1342 cc, 4 cylinder, 8 valve, 2 barrel carb
			DX, Si, sedan, and wagon :
				1488 cc, 4 cylinder, 12 valve, 2 barrel carb
			Si, 4WD wagon
				PGM FI

		1988-1991	4th Gen
			DX, Si, LX, Wagon, 4WD

			1493 cc, 4 cylinder, 12 valve, 16 valve on hatchbacks,
			Dual Point FI, Multi Point FI on Si and 4WD wagon

		1992-1995	5th Gen
			DX, LX, EX, Si, hatch/coupe/4door
			1.5L, 1.6 SOHC VTEC

		1996-1999	6th Gen
			DX, LX, EX, no Si
			1.5L, 1.6 SOHC VTEC

	Performance Analysis : 	Civics are the Mustangs/Camaros of Honda.
	With a healthy power to weight ratio, a hopped up Civic
	can give sports cars a serious run for the money.
	Try to stay away from the wagons and the DXs okay?
	If you stick with the Si or EX you'll be much happier.
	DX's tend to have a wimpy intake/fuel injection and a wimpy motor. So
	no big nitrous oxide shots or boost. Going hybrid with the light
	chassis is choice though (VX, DX, CX).

	CRX
		1984-1987
		1988-1991

	Performance Analysis : The Poor Man's Sports Car. Based on the Civic
	chassis, this car was made to handle and go fast. Again stick with
	the Si version or you'll have to spend more money going around
	non-Si nuances. DX's tend to have a wimpy intake/fuel injection and
	a wimpy motor. So no big nitrous oxide shots or boost will make
	it much faster. Going hybrid with the light chassis is choice
	though (HF models).

	delSol
		1994-1997

	Performance Analysis : The CRX born again. Honda did not engineer
	this car to truly be a performance successor to the CRX. Anything
	with VTEC means speed! So stick with the Si and VTEC models.

	From: dave (mail@removed.com)
	Subject: Re: HP:  auto-xing Del Sols

	"Douglas Coulthard wrote:
	> Ok wow, what is with the del Sol bashing, I have a del Sol and love my car
	> vey much and am looking into getting into Autocross, but you guys all seem
	> to be into drag racing.

	as i've mentioned before, we have attempted to build a 95 del sol
	VTEC into a nationally competitive CSP autocross car. We had about
	$15,000 worth of full blown race parts into it. No, not street parts
	like you read about here. Well, it was competitive locally, and
	even regionally, just like the guy you talk to in Calif.
	But the truth is, is my CSP 85 CRX Si just ate it up. And so will
	the other nationally competitive 1st gen CSP CRX Si's. It's the
	weight of the del sol that kills it. After all, it's hard to beat
	a 1700-1800 lb car with around 140-150+ HP. You would need at
	least 220+ HP which can't be done within the SCCA Street Prepared
	rules with the Del Sol VTEC engine. (believe me, we tried, and so
	have many others) Not to mention handling : a 1700-1800 lb CRX can
	pull over 1.1 lateral G's steady state on race tires. Mine will do
	1.18 right, 1.17 left, and our del sol did 1.04 and 1.05 on my
	wheels and tires.

	But im not saying it's a bad car, I like them very much, but not for
	a race car." [Ed : well maybe not for a Solo2 race car. ;D]


	Integra
		1986-1989
		1990-1993
		1994-1997
		1998-2001	Coming soon?

	Performance Analysis : The Civic's bigger brother. A little heavier,
	but the bigger engine. Witness lil brothers seen stealing the engines
	away out of their older brother's chassis. GS-R is the Integra bad
	boy. And the Type-R is the race car on the street. An Integra
	is a good choice for hopping up. The lower model (RS) might be choice,
	since it's the lightest.

	Legend

	Performance Analysis : 	See Accord analysis.

	NSX
		1991-1997

	Performance Analysis : The premier sports car
	from Honda. The newer engine makes the car more
	competitive in a straight line against
	other Sports Cars.

	Prelude
		1989-1992
		1992-1996
		1997-

	Performance Analysis : Bigger engine (TORQUE!) and a
	good suspension make this car one of the 3
	sporty/sports car from Honda. Again stick
	with Si or VTEC and you won't go wrong.
	It's a bit heavier, but as seen
	in IMSA they make a good road racer.
	Not as popular as Integras, may have
	something to do with bang for buck.

	TL, RL, CL

	Performance Analysis : 	See Accord analysis.

	Vigor

	Performance Analysis : 	See Accord analysis.


3.0 Engines

Engine Basics

   I've tried my best to explain the workings of the engine. For a different
   point of view, try checking out : http://www.autoshop-online.com/auto101.html

   An engine is a air pump. It takes in oxygen, adds fuel, compresses it,
   burns it, and then expels the exhaust out. The controlled combustion energy
   is converted to a (kinetic) mechanical one. The combustion drives the
   crankshaft to turn which connected to a transmission causes the drive wheels
   to spin.

   Valves are devices to control opening and closing of orifices within
   the cylinder head (combustion chamber) These valves are actuated by camshafts
   via rocker arms. Some valves let air+fuel in, others expel exhaust.

   Camshafts are axles with different kinds of lobes/bumps on them. The
   shape/size of these lobes determine how and when the valves open and close.
   The terms lift, duration, and overlap are used to describe a camshaft. Lift
   refers to how high the camshaft opens a valve. Duration refers to how long
   a camshaft keeps the valve open for. And overlap refers to how long an intake
   and exhaust valve are both open at the same time.

   On one end of the camshaft a gear called a camshaft sprocket is attached.
   This keeps the camshaft in mechanical synchronization with the crankshaft.
   Usually a belt or chain is used to run the sprockets and the crankshaft gear.
   Remember your timing belt maintenance?

   The cylinder head houses the combustion chamber of the engine as well
   as the valvetrain, camshafts, and sparkplugs. The cylinder head mounts on top
   of the engine block.

   The engine block houses the crankshaft, rods, and pistons.

   The pistons single axis upward and downward motion is converted to a
   rotational one via the connecting rods to the crankshaft. Pistons can be
   changed to control how effectively they compress the air/fuel mixture.
   This is referred to as the compression ratio.

   From: Morgan Fruchtnicht (mail@removed.com)
   "We all know that displacement is the volume swept out by all the pistons
   in an engine.  Instead of displacement I think you want "combustion
   chamber volume" or something to that effect."

   Connecting rods attach the pistons to the crankshaft.

   The crankshaft is the big axle you want to spin to make your car go. On one
   end, the flywheel is attached.

   Remember, in making an engine produce more power there are a lot of factors
   involved (gas mileage, low end power, high end power, engine life, etc etc)


3.1 What engine oil should I use? How often should I change it?

As often as you can afford it and as often as is practical for your
   lifestyle. If you need a solid mileage number, every 3k miles depending on
   driver abuse/environmental conditions is a good start. A good synthetic oil
   is also recommended. Mobil1, Redline, and Castrol Syntec are current
   favorites.

   Do be careful with using synthetic oil in Rotary/Wankel engines. This is a
   general warning for you folks w/ Mazdas in the family.

   From: Daniel Wolstenholme (mail@removed.com)
   "I've noticed that a very frequent question that's been asked on HP for years
   is, "what grade (viscosity) engine oil should I use?"  I know these seems
   rather simple, and it befuddles me why people even ask it.  The answer, as
   I think it should be, is, "Check your owner's manual for the oil grade
   recommended by your manufacturer.  Most Honda engines specify 5W-30, but
   check your manual to be sure.  If given a choice between 5W-30 and 10W-30
   because of  prevailing temperatures in your area, 5W-30 will produce
   better fuel economy, while 10W-30 will cause your engine to run slightly quieter."

   [Ed : In my experience, I get no difference in fuel economy between the
   aforementioned oil grades. I do use only 10W30 since I am in California.
   I've heard wider ranges have more additives that do wear out (hence
   the desire to use 10W30)

   Someone else wrote that a Honda dealer said Honda does not recommend using
   a synthetic engine oil. IMNSHO, this is bs.]


3.2 What's the difference between SOHC versus DOHC?

S ingle O ver H ead C amshaft
   D ual   O ver H ead C amshaft

   SOHC has one cam above the cylinders controlling both sets of intake and
   exhaust valves. While  DOHC has one camshaft for intake valves and one for
   exhaust valves.

   As you can imagine it's harder mechanically to use one camshafts to control
   all valves precisely. By having two camshafts, one for intake and one for
   exhaust valves, you can fine tune valve control (more power)


3.3 What's VTEC?

Daryl Krzewinski (mail@removed.com) :
   VTEC is Honda's trademarked acronym for Variable valve Timing and Electronic
   lift Control. Put simply, it's a method of directly altering the cam profile
   that valves "see", so that the optimum grind can be utilized at either high
   or low rpm.

   Ideally we'd like to control each valve independently with great precision.
   Unfortunately this isn't practical/feasible yet.  Thus the need for DOHC
   (see 3.2) However even that is limited, imagine if we dynamically alter the
   camshaft lobes for optimal configuration for the valves opening and closing
   for a given range of RPMs? Essentially VTEC allows many different camshaft
   profiles. Ideally you can have a low RPM cam, then kick in the big RPM cam.
   You've got the best of both worlds. This is VTEC.

   It's electronic in the sense that the whole setup is RPM activated by the
   engine computer.

   For more VTEC explanation, see http://integra.vtec.net/vtec.html


3.4 How often should I adjust my valves?

This is much like the oil question. Again as often as you can afford it and
   as often as is practical for your lifestyle. Every 15k miles is a good start.
   Probably before every race too.


3.5 What is a porting & polished head job?

The engine production process is not perfect. Imperfections in the casting
   of parts leads to rough surfaces. A "port" usually involves remove/changing
   the size/shape of an opening. A "polish" smoothens the surface. The overall
   combination flows more than stock. Thus yielding better power.

   Changing the shape improves the path of intake air/fuel, and polishing smooths
   the path, reducing turbulence.


3.6 What benefit do I get from changing camshafts?

Honda engineers a compromise on their camshafts (with respect to gas mileage,
   power, and idle quality)

   Remember your engine basics? This is where valve lift, duration, and overlap
   are played around with to produce more power out of an engine.

   By going with a performance grind, you usually get more power up top. You
   sacrifice some power down low as well as idle quality and gas mileage.

   Also remember VTEC? This is where VTEC solves the camshaft problem elegantly.

   From: "Frank/G.speed" (mail@removed.com)
   "However, on the topic of lobe seperation, all most all 
    demostic V8's have one cam driving
   all the valves.  Thus the lobe seperation is "grinded" on to the cam
   and is not changable.  The same would be true for Honda SOHC engines.
   On DOHC engines, when you have adjustable cam gears you are changing
   the lobe seperation angle.  You can still use adjustable cam gears on
   SOHC but the change is less flexible and the outputs aren't as good.

   The basic cam spec is lift and duration.  Most cam grinder/manufacture
   will tell you their lift and duration at .050" of lift.  The reason is
   because below that there isn't too much airflow action going on.  Cam
   profiling; the ramp design; accerelation rate is the real art of cam
   design.  You need to design it for high performance and still maintain
   reliability.

   JG cams are all regrinds, meaning that they are all smaller than the
   factory spec and have smaller base circle.  Most people with JG cams
   have to adjust their valves very often.

   I don't think anyone has produced raw blanks yet...  other than Honda
   themselves.  Honda has excellent metallurgy (sp?) and I suppose it's
   not that easy to duplicate.

   It is possible to weld on materials to Honda cams, then regrind them
   to spec.  Z.Speed has made couple of sets of these cams (Comptech
   cams are also finished the same way).  This means the cams have factory
   base circle, and should be much reliable than regular regrinds.  But
   they are expensive."


3.7 What are adjustable cam sprockets? What do they do?

With an adjustable cam sprocket, you can adjust the camshaft timing away from
   the mechanically set stock setting. Doing this you can fine tune the engine's
   behavior to produce more power. You will again likely sacrifice gas mileage
   as well as idle quality. A competent tuner and a dyno are essential to reap
   the max benefits from this modification.

   Apparently, people are having problems with installation of these parts.
   Some people have broken the set bolts which results in tuning adjustments
   thrown off. Consult the manufacturer for proper installation and torque
   setting when installing these.

   From: Ed (mail@removed.com)
   ">Frank/G.Speed wrote:
   > As for broken studs, there has been two cases I know for Z.Speed gears.
   > But in both cases it's simply overtightened.

   Umm, make that two more cases. Both were on 1.8l VTEC engines, and
   both weren't overtightened. To make sure this won't happen again, these two
   friends of mine are getting some grade-8 bolts to replace 'em. Other than
   the weak bolts, I have no other complaints about the Z-Speeds."

   Update : There's been some recent discussion that on VTEC
   engines, you only need one adjustable cam sprocket (bang/buck).
   It seems that the additional sprocket, yields very minimal gains.
   I forget which VTEC camshaft alone is responsible for the bigger
   gains.


3.8 What models and engines are out there?

Too many for me to remember. Please send me the engine specs if you have
   them.

   Civic

   From: Drew (not Boyles) Yamamoto, mail@removed.com
   "From the 94' Civic catalogue straight from Honda HQ in Aoyama Japan"

    Honda Civic HB

    EG 3	EL	D13B	carburated	 85HP@6300	SOHC 1.3l
    EG 4	MX	D15B	dual carb	100HP@6300	SOHC 1.5l
    EG 4	ETi	D15B	PGM-FI		 94HP@5500	SOHC 1.5l
    EG 4	VTi	D15B	PGM-FI		130HP@6800	SOHC 1.5l
    EG 6	SiR	B16A	PGM-FI		170HP@7300	DOHC 1.6l

    Honda Civic Ferio (sedan)

    EG7		EL	D13B	carburated	 85HP@6300	SOHC 1.3l
    EG8		ML	D15B	carburated	 91HP@6000	SOHC 1.5l
    EG8 	MX	D15B	dual carb	100HP@6300	SOHC 1.5l
    EG8		ETi	D15B	PGM-FI		 94HP@5500	SOHC 1.5l
    EG8 	VTi	D15B	PGM-FI		130HP@6800	SOHC 1.5l
    EJ3		EXi	ZC	PGM-FI		130HP@6600	SOHC 1.6l
    EG9		SiR	B16A	PGM-FI		170HP@7300 	DOHC 1.6l

    Honda Civic Ferio 4WD
    EH1		RTX	ZC	PGM-FI		105@6300	SOHC 1.6l
    EH1		RTSi	ZC	PHM-FI		130@6800	DOHC 1.6l

   Integra
      142hp@6300, 127 ft/lbs@5200	B18B1, 1.8 L DOHC	from G3 Integra.
      170hp@7600, 128 ft/lbs@6200	B18C1, 1.8 L DOHC VTEC	from G3 Integra.

   From: mail@removed.com
   Subject: HP : SiR Confusion, EF 9 & EK 9 engines, and vtec vs non-vtec

   "SiR Confusion
   Matt Blodgett spoke of his SiR confusion. Basically, he was asking about
   the ZC series of motors from Honda and about its relevance to the SiR.

   Perhaps I can offer some information. It seems that the ZC name is for
   a series of 1.6l engine (1590cc to be exact) that Honda puts on the
   Civic/CRX/Integra range. This can be SOHC or DOHC. For each different
   engine, its serial number will also be preceeded by a D16... something
   that indicates its exact configuration.

   [Ed: this coincides with Drew's information above.]

   Thus, Civic/CRX 1.6-16 in UK uses a ZC engine which is 1590cc DOHC. I
   forgot the D16... name. My previous car which is a Civic model
   specifically for certain parts of South-East Asia also uses a ZC engine.
   It's 1590cc SOHC Dual-Carb and the serial number is preceeded by D16Z1.
   I believe if you are to check the 1.6lSOHC VTECs of US Civics, you will
   also find its serial number preceeded by the D16... name. In fact if you
   are to check a japanese catalog for the Civic/CRX, all of the 1.6l motors
   will be called 'ZC' except for the DOHC VTEC.

   The 1.6l (1595cc actually) DOHC VTEC is called the B16A. There are two
   generations. The first generation appeared in Japan-only version of the
   2nd gen Integra called the XSi in 1989. They appeared in the Civic/CRX
   in end '89/1990 in the model called the SiR. This first generation
   produces 160hp at 7600rpm in Japan. To add to the confusion, this
   engine when used in the UK version of the CRX (called the 1.6-16VT model)
   produces 'only' 150hp at a lower rpm (forgot exact number).

   From late '91/92 onwards, B16As got revised and now Japan versions
   produces 170hp at 7800rpm. These again appeared in the Japan-only Integra
   XSi's and then in '92+ Civic/CRX DelSol SiRs when they appeared. IF you
   are looking at used motors imported from Japan, look at the valve covers
   to determine the generation of the B16A you are getting. The 1st gen
   has DOHC wordings larger than VTEC. The current gen has VTEC wordings
   larger than DOHC. Now, to REALLY add to the confusion, all B16As used
   outside of Japan (in the UK Civic and DelSol and the US DelSol VTECs)
   has 160hp at 7600rpm but has the new valve cover (ie VTEC wordings larger
   than DOHC) so its important to _make sure_ exactly where the engine you
   are getting comes from. (In Malaysia, they cut the car in half and
   imports the half complete with engine into the country. Then we can
   clearly see all the japanese wording in the engine bay !. In anycase,
   the timing belt information on the valve cover will be in japanese).

   BTW, just a slight digress. The B16A seems totally different from the
   ZC. B16A = 1595cc, ZC = 1590cc. Their bore AND stroke are different. But
   B18C have the same bore as B16A so it _could_ be true that they are
   stroked B16As."

   From: Jerome Soh (mail@removed.com)
   Subject: HP:  Weight difference of complete B18B1 and D16Z6

   For those of you interested, I weighed both engines (complete with
   tranny).  The B18B1 is 40 lbs heavier.  From info I have from TC Kline,
   the B18C1 (vtec) is 20 lbs heavier on top of that, mostly up high
   because of the vtec system.  I've also got a complete run down of each
   individual component that can be taken off the engine (alternator, dist,
   starter, engine mounts, PS bracket, pressure plate, tranny alone,
   clutch, all sorts of crap).  Someone remind me to post that some time
   this week.  The tranny without pressure plate and clutch weighed 81 lbs.

   Oh, the B18B1 weighed about 350 lbs total and the D16Z6 310 lbs (error
   is about +/- 5 lbs max).

   To : Adrian Teo (mail@removed.com)
   > Well, the SOHC VTEC engine (D16Z6) puts out about 127bhp while the DOHC
   > VTEC engine (B16A3) puts out about 160bhp
   > For more on Civic/Integra engines and specs feel free to check out:
   > http://falcon.asu.edu/~adrian/civic/engine.html

   From : Chris Layne (mail@removed.com)
   "I'm sure Adrian knows this, but for the people who don't, there are slight
   differences.

   The American 1992-1995 D16Z6 put out 125hp at it's power peak.
   The American 1996-1997 D16Z6 put out 127hp at it's power peak.

   The American 1992-1997 B16A3 put out 160hp at it's power peak.
   The Japanese 1992-1997 B16A3 put out 170hp at it's power peak.
   The Japanese 1989-1991 B16A  put out 160hp at it's power peak."


3.9 Can the [xxx] engine be swapped into the [xxx] chassis?

"So you wanna go hybrid?" I can't begin to completely answer this question.
   Currently, Integra powered Civics are the rage. There's talk of Prelude
   DOHC VTEC motors getting dropped into Civics too. For your Civic engine
   swapping information, check out http://www.westworld.com/~joe_r
   Thanks Joe.


3.10 What do I need to know before rebuilding my engine?

When rebuilding a motor, you need to think of your tuning path. Nitrous
   oxide? Turbo/Supercharged? NA?

   Choose your compression wisely or you'll need to buy stock in Octane Booster
   companies. Recall your engine basics and chemistry (PV = nRT). The more air
   and fuel you pack into a given volume, the higher the pressure and temperature
   will be. This all leads to premature combustion and causes engine detonation
   which can/will lead to destruction of the engine internals.

   See http://integra.vtec.net/motorbuild.html for more precise information.
   Thanks Justin.

3.11 Do reprogrammed computer chips work?

This is a very touchy subject. Some people say they do, others don't.

   Here are some general comments :

   Every engine runs a little bit differently than others. How can
   one company claim to have a chip that can boost power up by XX horsepower.

   Make sure your chip company has a good dyno, and dyno proven
   results.

   Does your chip company custom tune to your car's setup. And just
   how do they do so without your car at their shop?

   Say your setup changes, what will your chip company do for you then?

   A money back guarantee is a nice thing.

   Raising your rev limiter does you no good unless you're making power up
   there. Better keep an eye on the valvetrain.

   From: Ken Woods (mail@removed.com)
   "Lately there have been some posts from people wanting to increase the
   redlines, or shift points on their cars.

   Why?

   A higher redline doesn't mean your car is faster, unless your valvestrain
   can support it.  If you have the stock valvetrain, you WILL have valve
   float. (The valves can't keep up with the cams or the pistons.  A Bad
   Thing(tm))  The valves will smack into the pistons, and you'll end up with
   a pile of junk metal, not an engine."

   Get a straight answer on how easy it is to return the ECU to stock parameters.


3.12 Who makes the best VTEC cam?

Currently, Honda is the best VTEC cam maker. Putting the Japanese Type R
   camshafts in has resulted in +7hp according to Eddie Kim @ Dynamic Autosports
   on their DynoJet.

   JG Engine Dynamics as well as DPR are both prototyping VTEC camshafts with
   reported good success.

   GUDE has always offered VTEC camshafts, but there have been mixed reports
   to thier performance results.

   From: mail@removed.com
   I have talked about this before, but I was down in LA about a month or so ago
   and they had a black 95 GSR there with the new JG cams, cam sprockets,
   throttle body, header, intake and exhaust....It produced 190 hp at the
   wheel!!!! JG claims 12-14hp at the wheels and I believe it!!! I talked to
   Jaiver and he said NE one happy with these cams after purchase can return
   them for a full refund...and you can't beat that!

   From: mail@removed.com
   "Well the GS-R that JG had sitting there when I went had their new VTEC cams
   and he said he didn't notice ne difference in realiability at all...the only
   thing he notice was the power increase...also the car idles like stock..."

   From: Ron Blakely (mail@removed.com)
   "Eddie @ Dynamic Autosports says they'll up hp by about 9[Ed : I heard 7]
   ponies...pretty decent. Yes they are compatible w/ 94- Integs but I think you need
   some kind of valve retainers or guides or something like that....sorry forgot
   what they were called. I myself, am gonna go w/ the JG cams because they
   are showing conistent hp increases of 12+ hp and that's before
   tuning..._and_ there's a money back gaurantee!"

   From: "Louis DeVirgilio" (mail@removed.com)
   "I have tried JG and Gude DOHC VTEC cams, I don't like them.
   Why ruin the great running, long lasting stock cams on
   your $20,000 + GSR by grinding away on the factory cams?

   Reason 1 for not regrinding cams:
   There are effectively 4 cams in a 1.8 L VTEC, thus Honda does not
   have to compromise on cam design.  DOHC VTEC cams can offer great
   low end and great top end,  one would assume that there is less
   power to be found by changing cams on a DOHC VTEC for the simple
   reason that the stock cams did not have the same compromises that
   other motors have (single cam VTEC or non VTEC).

   Reason 2
   The stock hardened Honda cams can last 100,000 to 200,000 miles with
   no to minimal wear.  Try that on your regrind cam.  I've seen
   regrinds show significant wear after only a few thousand miles.  Oh
   that's right the Regrind cams were Rehardend... and after a few
   thousand miles they were Replaced with stock units and then Resold.

   Reason 3
   Honda offers a great (the best)  cam.  Yes you can get Honda
   Type R cams from your local speed parts store.  They fit, they last,
   they work.  There are not cheap.  Get the Type R intake springs at
   the same time.  Use the GS-R intake springs on the exhaust side.
   Keep the stock cams if you don't like the Type R sell them for
   big $$$.

   Reason 4
   The Type R gets 195 HP with a whole bunch of stuff changed, do you
   guys think that a GS-R will get 182 HP (+12) with just a cam change?
   So intake manifold, air cleaner, cool air pickup, ported head,
   undercut and re-angled intake valves, new high flow exhaust, brain,
   TB,  lightened flywheel and moly coated high comp pistons are only
   worth 13 more HP?  A cam is worth maybe 8 or 9 HP on a VTEC
   and that is if it is working with all the other mods.  I saw the
   article that shows 12 HP for JG and another 15 HP with cam gears.
   Yeah if you custom cam can get another 15 HP with gears maybe there
   is something wrong with the cams?

   More on this reason : A stock GSR will make more HP with gears, but
   not 15 more. The point is a custom cam should have duration and overlap setup
   correctly for more power, the gears let you change overlap, if you can get 15
   more HP by changing overlap, why was this not designed into the custom cam?
   I realize not all setup are the same and thus a custom cam may  be tweaked
   with adjustable gears... but 15 more HP over the 12 HP for cam alone.
   I don't think so.

   [Ed : As someone else pointed out, a stock B18C w/ dialed in cam sprockets
   makes more power, does this mean the stock B18C camshafts are faulty?
   VTEC allows for different cam profiles, VTEC DOES NOT
   allow for dynamic/realtime adjustable valve timing (a la
   Toyota's VVT or the Skyline GT-R's computer controlled sprocket)

   To a large extent overlap is controlled simply by camshaft installation
   (except for SOHC engines). IMHO, I'd imagine regrinding/manipulating a camshaft's
   lobes for a certain degree offset as expensive and unreliable. Or you can
   reweld the position of the ends of the camshaft for the offset. The best solution
   would be for a custom billet camshaft (which is a lot of money too) By far the
   easiest solution, is an adjustable cam sprocket with the reground cams, since you
   would be dyno-tuning the engine anyhow.]

   Reason 5
    The stock GSR cam peaks at 7600, the Type R at 8000, fuel cut off at
   8200, 8500 respectively.  Larger cams move the power further up
   the curve, how much higher do ya want to rev?  I try to keep my
   1.8 below 9000 RPM. All kinds of exotic stuff is needed in a motor
   that goes above 9000 RPM, and most of the stuff does not like street
   use.  Take it from a guy with two daily driven Integras, 9000 RPM is
   about all a street motor can take and still go 100,000 miles.

   Reason 6
   Regrind cams can change the lift and duration but can they keep the
   same ramp profiles as a billet or factory cams?  Look at a GSR cam
   notice the lifting face is flat, yep it is flat... talking about an
   aggressive profile; no lift then bam!! slap the valve open.  Yes the
   regrind might have more lift and duration at zero lash, but how
   does the duration compare at .020 .050 or .100 ?  The last VTEC
   regrind I checked had way more duration at .020 and less duration at
   .050 and it is @.050  where the flow really starts.

   Reason 7
   To use a larger cam: Type R or better, you must have all the other
   mods.  My large tube 4 to 1 header has NO ground clearance, My 3
   inch exhaust can wake up the dead.  My heavily ported head has
   zero gas milage and low end torque.  My high comp pistons want
   only race gas, My con rods are ready to blow thru the block, My
   custom multiangle valve job seems to last about 6 months before
   they give up their seal. Why do you think I have two Integras?
   I can change a head in 4 hours and a motor out in 8 hours.  I
   have a lot of practice.

   Reason 8
   GSR motors are big bucks.  So when your cheap regrinds with their
   pitiful no spec cam profiles and sagging valves springs decide to let
   that stock intake valve float/bounce  because the regrinds have
   non-engineered deceleration ramps.  You would be out a motor...
   tuff.  I have two seperate GS-R pistons both died because of valve
   train failure (of course the motor went also). One valve train from
   JG and one from Gude. I don't have a failed piston from a Type R top
   end (yet).

   To sum it up, save your money and either by a billet cam from OLM-R
   or Type R cams from your local  speed shop.  Anything less is a waste
   of money, time, and maybe a motor.  Don't buy a cam if that is the
   only thing you can afford.

   To prove me wrong, let's have a report from someone with Gude/JG cams
   before and after dyno runs/ 1/4 mile runs; also a wear report after
   20,000 miles.  Here we go with my Type R cams:

   20,000 miles: no wear on cams, no valve adjustment need in that time.
   Power till 8500 and shift at 8800, no loss in lowend, no decrease in
   MPG.

   best time before cams 14.79 @ 94 MPH @Hawaii Raceway park, stock
   tires, shift at 8600 top of third at 8400+ RPM thru the traps

   best time after Type R cams 14.51 @ 98 MPH with Vericome,  yes I
   calibrate my Vericome to reflect close to my true times.  yes same
   car, same road, same driver, same distance.  I found my Vericome is
   more constant match with MPH then with time. top of third at
   8800 RPM at end of 1/4 mile.

   I have tried to short shift third to fourth but my time fall off by 2
   tenths."


3.13 What's a milled head?

This is a process of shaving off a little of the bottom (mounting side
   to the engine block) of the cylinder head. By doing so, you
   reduce the size of the combustion chamber (you have effectively
   raised your compression ratio, good for power)

   Be careful about milling your head. I've been told the ~correct~
   way to change your compression ratio is to use ~domed~ pistons.
   A much more expensive route than milling the head (see why people
   mill now?)

   By milling your head, you may throw off your camshaft timing (see
   adjustable cam sprocket), your ignition timing will be off too
   (the distributor reads input off the intake camshaft),
   and you may introduce more timing belt slack.

   People claim milling the cylinder head ever so imperceptably will not
   throw off these three areas too much (why bother then right?). I've
   always regarded Honda 4 cylinder engines as the epitome of conventional
   engine engineering. With astronomically high RPM power range,
   milling your head just seems to me like pulling out the pin
   on a grenade.

   Now before every milled head groupie writes in saying a milled
   head is the bomb etc etc., it's your valvetrain and your money.
   You've been warned.


3.14 Should I buy a VTEC controller? Can I make my own?

A VTEC controller varies the RPM kick in point for the VTEC system (i.e. the high
   RPM camshaft profile) They're pretty much knob adjusting devices
   I believe (is there a fully digital one?)

   By modifying your car, you may not be engaging VTEC at the optimal point.
   Only by extensive dyno time can you determine the optimum point.
   No one tuner has definitively proven that a VTEC controller
   yields a good power improvement.

   Simply purchasing a controller will not make your car faster. You need
   to dyno tune this device.

   From: 
   "I am not sure who said it... I read it on one of the posts listed among other stuff
   that's "hyped-up but actually doesn't work..."

   If you know how to use it correctly, VTEC controllers do help out.
   Now, my experience with these relates to the SPOON VTEC Controller in specific.
   I don't know if any of you guys have tried this out... but when the VTEC kicks in...
   the timing is advanced (ignition timing that is..)  When your car is on the dyno...
   especially if you have cams, there is a very huge spike when the VTEC kicks in.  On my
   car when the controller is set at 6000 rpm, there is a 45 (wheel horsepower) power
   spike on the dyno sheet.  On the road... this kicks the tires loose in 1st gear.  This
   kind of power is useless, therefore set the VTEC to kick in lower... now you don't want
   this at idle obviously because the low-rpm power production of the VTEC portion of the
   camshafts don't produce too much power.  In drag racing, a VTEC controller is not really
   necesary since most of us launch above 6000 rpms anyway.  But on street tires... it
   helps out.  I launch at 1700 rpm on the street.  If I wait until 5000 rpm+ for the
   VTEC I get my ass kicked out of the hole.  If I the VTEC kicks in at 3000 let's say...
   the tires don't start spinning after 6000 rpm.

   Also, to get a smooth horsepower curve, having the VTEC kick in at around 4800 rpm gives
   a relatively smooth transition.  Hardly any power spike.  Having it too low bogs
   the car in the lower rpm range and having it at 6000 is like brrrrrr...BAAAAAHHHHH
   (I just like that sound.. )

   When I had my 1.6 SOHC VTEC in the coupe I had the SPOON VTEC Controller and I actually
   raced someone about 4 times having it set at different rpms.  Launching the same, but
   varying the transition rpm, is about 1-2 car lengths (plus and minus) in the 1/4 mile.
   Now, racing someone is not as accurate as E.T, but it's allright.  If it can make a
   difference on the SOHC, think what it does on the DOHC's!!

   P.S. The SPOON VTEC Controller works on the 1992 GSR, 1992-up Civic, 1994-up GSR,
   1994-up Accords and Preludes."

   Several HP-list members have made their own VTEC controller.
   Although very basic and crude, it can be made very cheaply
   in comparison to Japanese units.

   It involves triggering the VTEC wire (off the engine ECU via +12V)
   based on RPM. MSD sells a RPM actuator device or a tap into a shift lite
   would do the same. Or you can jimmyrig one up if you're electronically inclined.


3.15 Can I just swap a VTEC cylinder head onto my non-VTEC motor?

Nope. The best thing to do is to swap in the whole motor w/ ECU. VTEC motors have
   a different ECU setup as well as special engine block (crankshaft, oil passages,
   oil cooler, etc) to ensure high rpm longevity. The head and valevtrain just
   don't cut it alone.

   From : 

 

 

 

   "i was able to buy the latest issue of REVspeed
   magazine and Option magazine. both have very interesting articles about
   the civic type r and the b16b engine that it has. and acoording to rev
   speed magazine, you can fit a b20 head onto a b18 block, and also the b16
   head onto a b18 block, which actually is the integra type R's b18c."

   REQUEST :  I have been getting reports of people claiming that a VTEC
   head swap is possible. While Sport Compact Car has documented a Civic w/ a 1.5L motor
   that swapped on a 1.6 SOHC VTEC head, I vaguely recall that B16 and B18 series
   VTEC motors and NON-VTEC motors do not have compatible head gasket configurations
   amongst other important features. Please confirm or deny these claims. Thanks.


3.16 What does a lightened crankshaft pulley do for me and who makes them?

The idea here is much the same as the lightened flywheel. Reduce the amount
   of mass your engine is using energy to move. I've held a B18A OEM pulley,
   it's not extremely heavy. It is heavy enough to discourage you from dropping on your
   foot. So it looks like some power could be freed up by swapping the pulley
   out.

   Some companies making light crankshaft pulleys are Unorthodox Racing,
   Z.Speed (thought I saw it on the web page, can't find it now),
   and possibly DC Sports.


3.17 What does an underdrive pulley do?

By changing the diameter of pulleys running off your engine you can increase
   or decrease the amount of revolutions the pulleys get (think about gear ratios
   for a moment, and general gearing thoughts) Anyhow, using an underdrive pulley
   you can make less revolutions, sapping less power. This is good to use on say
   power steering or A/C. I do think that underdriving your accessories probably
   sacrifices how well they perform. You'll probably get less steering assist
   and cooling. I don't think it's wise to mess with your alternator.


3.18 What's a blueprinted engine?

From: Alan Tang (mail@removed.com)
   www.bogo.co.uk./alantang/civic/html/civic1.htm
   "Blue printing is the most expensive way to gain power from your engine.
   It involves stripping the engine and re-building it as close a possible
   to the engineers 'blue prints' for the engine.

   Blue printing is only used in motorsport where there are strict rules on
   the mods that can be done to an engine.  Blue printing does not really
   modify the engine, only makes it closer in specification to the original
   blue print and thus more power.  However, due to this, the engine will
   also be more balanced and stronger...

   Power gains can be from zero to 40bhp... depending on engine.  With a
   Honda I guess you would gain around 15bhp...

   Due to the high labour and skill involved, blueprinting is very
   expensive.  I reckon anything from US$1000 upwards...  (this is a rough
   guess!)

   Pause for thought....  A top Ford Motorsport UK engineer said you could
   get the same results as blueprinting by driving your car to red line
   from new (no run in period) for 2,000 miles."


3.19 What's shotpeening?

From:SolBlade (mail@removed.com)
   "SHOT PEENING is a method of cold working in which compressive stresses
   are induced in the exposed surface layers of metallic objects by the
   impingement of a stream of shot, directed at the metal surface at high
   velocity and under controlled conditions.  It differs from blast cleaning
   in primary purpose and in the extent to which it is controlled to yield
   accurate and reproducible results.  Although shot peening cleans the
   surface being peened, this function is incidental; the major purpose of
   shot peening is to increase fatigue strength.  The process has other
   useful applications, such as relieving tensile stresses that contribute to
   stress-corrosion cracking, forming and straightening of metal parts, and
   testing the adhesion of silver plate on steel."

   From: ASM Metals Handbook, eighth edition, volume 2, "Mechanical
   Finishing, Shot Peening", page 398, first paragraph.


3.20 What VTEC camshafts are compatible with each other?

From: "Frank/G.speed" (mail@removed.comm)
   "B16A, B17A, B18C cams are all interchangable.  B18C and B16A cams
   are slightly different.  B17A cam is that same as the B16A (notice
   they produce the peak HP and peak torque at the same RPM; 7600
   RPM and 7000 RPM respectively).

   JG cams, from what I know it's something like, a shop* let JG have
   a set of Japanese Type-R cams to test, and never got it back...
   since then JG started to sell DOHC VTEC cams.  I dunno, you figure
   it out.  Not sure if it's the exact duplicate (JG's are regrinds,
   with smaller base circle; not the rewelded and refinished cams
   which are costly) but you can bet it is based on the Type-R cam.

   * shop name withheld as it's not first hand info, regard this as
   gossip.

   PS, I'm glad Louie brought up the point of durability.  For a soild
   power gain + factory quality, it's hard to beat the Type-R valve
   train upgrades.  Althought it ain't cheap.  For a streetable
   naturally aspirated motor that's the only way to go.  For race
   motors I can sell you Mugen Group-A cams and valve springs.  This
   cam makes power to 9500 RPM and beyond and idles at around 2000 RPM.
   Are you ready for it on the street?"


3.21 How do I break in an engine?

Ken Woods says :
   "Here's what I do, and recommend.

   1.  Use regular oil, not synthetic, during break-in.
   2.  When you first start it up, let it COMPLETELY warm up, not just kinda
       warm, all the way warm.
   3.  While it's still hot, check and see if the head needs to be retorqued.
   4.  Check the timing again, as well as the valve adjustment.
   5.  Very slowly and using the lowest rpms as possbile  get to about
       65mph. Put the car in 4th gear.  The coast, in neutral, to about 30.
   6.  Go from 30 to 65, in 4th gear about 20 times. This allows the rings to
       seat, so do it right, and do it 20 times.
   7.  Drive EASY for about 150 miles. Change the oil. Still just the
       regular oil.
   8.  Drive easy for another 150 miles. Change the oil again. Still just the
       regular oil.
       (yeah, I realize that steps 7 and 8 say the same thing. Do it twice)
   9.  Drive it kinda easy (no trips to redline) for another 1500 miles.
   10. Change the oil again.  Now you can use the expensive synthetics if you
       want to.
   11. After that, the motor is pretty much broken in, so go run the dang
       thing to see how fast it is!!!!"

3.22 Why is there a difference between USA and JDM engine power outputs?

From: Pasene R. Faifua (mail@removed.com)
   "Due to different pollution standards, different fuel RON octane contents
   around the world, and how pretty much all the Japanese Automobile makers
   use their JDM for 'banzai specials'.

   It is unlikely that you can simply retune your car to JDM levels if it's
   built to a particular Export Specification/ES.

   Myself, WongKN, Alan Tang, and Kaz Mori have discussed previously trying to
   detail what differences are there to ES compared to JDM specifications, and
   no clear answer came from it.

   E-EG and E-EK ES Civic VTi has 160ps @ 7600rpm, JDM Civic SiR has 170ps @
   7800rpm. Interestingly the Compression Ratio for JDM is 10.4:1, apparently
   it's the same for ES, but the USA version has CR 10.2:1

   I've personally had a JDM 1990 E-EF9 Civic SiR Dynoed that I was looking at
   buying to check its performance, and the car came up short showing only
   153ps, not the JDM specification 160ps.

   My Dyno Shop only has the ES for same engined Civic 1.6i-VT which has
   150ps, and according to them the 153ps is all this particular Civic would
   give in its current specification.

   Both JDM and ES B16A1 engines have CR 10.2:1. I showed them the JDM
   specifications, and they were a little confused as to where the other 8ps
   was.

   The car dealer said it was because the JDM have 99 octane fuel, but my Dyno
   Shop says that 99 octane over 96 octane as sold here in New Zealand, will
   not give you 8ps.

   I've driven a good number of these SiR's and this particular SiR's engine
   did not drive very well, very poor performance until 5500rpm compared to my
   SOHC 123ps Civic GTi, which is not how it should be.

   This was confirmed on the Dyno with the power curve looking like someone
   had taken a huge bite taken out of the middle.

   I declined on buying it, and had intended to buy an E-EG or E-EK JDM Civic
   SiR but as I'm looking to move to Singapore/Hong Kong, these plans have
   been shelved. Instead I'll be looking out for the Civic Type R and
   Nissan Pulsar VS-R when I arrive there.

   I hope this helps answer some of your questions, though I feel I might have
   wandered a little with my SiR experience. Feel free to contact me with any
   questions/comments you may have, or forward me anything that clears up the
   differences between ES and JDM."

3.23 Why do you give those valves an angled seat?

From : Moses Hernandez (mail@removed.com)
   "I work doing heads at a machine shop maybe i can explain how seating
   helps. BTW JG recommends 5 angle's on the intake and 3 on the exhaust
   side. Well anyways. If you give your heads a small 45 degree angle
   (which is where the valve sits) and make the 30 bigger and the 60 move
   it up alot higher (in other words make the valve sit higher on the
   seat), then yes you can actually get more air comming into the cylinder.
   I'd have to actually show you but i think you can understand it."

   John Kim wrote:
   "To quote an authority on this topic, I talked to Lingenfelter
   Performance Engineering.

   me  : "To settle an argument, what is the primary reason people get
         those multi-angle grinds on the valves?"
   lpe : "To improve breathing."
   me  : "Can I quote you on that?"
   lpe : "Better, you can quote the dyno."

   Call them up and ask for Chris (or even John Lingenfelter himself)
   and they'all agree about the valve job theory.
   Lingenfelter's phone number: (219)724-2552"

3.24 Any cures for a rough idle due to a camshaft(s) swap?

Usually aggressive camshafts cannot move enough air at lower rpm's in order
   to pacify the engine breathing through the camshaft-motivated valves.

   Be sure to inspect your camshaft and ignition timing and make sure it's dead on.
   You can try to use adjustable cam sprockets to pacify the idle @ some
   expense of power. Also, an enlarged throttle body helps the idle out.

3.25 Comparison of B18A/B to B18C Integra engines

From: mail@removed.com
   "From what I can sense reading your comments, you are talking about Normally
   aspirated engines.  A fully built (bottom and top) race B18b engine will
   produce around 195-205 at the flywheel.  Mugen used such engines (B18A) in
   their Integra Race cars compaigned in the Group A series back in 1990-1991.

   A built B18b street engine will put out around 185 hp at the flywheel.
   Most built street B18b engine have cams, ported head, cam gears, TB, ECU,
   and valve springs along with the usual airflow enhancements.

   For Comparison:

   A fully built race B18C will produce 235 ps.  This is a great engine, as
   Honda demonstrated by increasing its power to 200ps from 180 ps, while
   maintaing factory reliability and quality (type-R) .  Most built street B18Cs
   will put out at max about 190hp at the flywheel.  Most street built B18C are
   set up with the usuall boltons, a TB, Cam gears,  ported head.

   The race prepped B18C has approximately 233 hp, runs 13:1 compression, idles
   at 2500RPM, only uses the high lobe of the cam, and makes its power at higher
   RPMs.  There are some firms that have been able to extract 250hp from the
   B18C, but those engines require a minor rebuild at 300 miles and a major
   rebuild at 600 miles.  In other words they are pure race engines.

   It is a matter of preferance and budget.  Both the VTEC and non-vtec are
   great engines.  They have different characteristics and powerbands.

   It is also a myth ( and B.S.) that VTECs dont respond to modifications.  This
   is a rumor started by people who tried to apply techniques developed for
   regular engines to VTEC engines.  VTEC will respond to the right kind of
   modifications.  People who dont feel a difference on their B18Cs with DC
   headers should note that the DC header was designed for the non-vtec engines
   that produced 130hp, not 170 as in the GS-R.

   The people who tried to port thier heads and lost power should note that DPR
   has found the proper porting technique.  Also Honda and Mugen are able to
   extract 12hp with head work on the B18C.

   I think they are both great engines with different characteristics."

   From: "Louis DeVirgilio" (mail@removed.com)

   "Both motors are about the same size, about the same valve and ports,
   same car, I would same they have about the same HP potential.  B18b
   is slightly bigger, GSR has slightly better breathing, slightly less
   mass or the rods, pistons, crank, and slightly less friction on the
   bearings. VTEC goes not contribute to ultimate top end HP,  it
   provides two cam profiles for flexibility but the same HP can be
   generated from a none VTEC motor of identical configuration (no low
   speed vtec lobe).  If we are going to limit our built motors to no
   bottom end work (which is realistic) because of expense, here is what
   I think can be achieved:

   B18B
   ported head, slight larger valves, TB, header, exhaust, air intake,
   milled head for  9.5+ CR, slightly larger cams (you still want it to
   idle right), cam gears (because of the milled head), ECU with a 8000
   RPM limit.  You can get 170-180 HP at the crank @ 7200 RPM
   15.6 to 15.2 1/4 on street tires in an Integra.

   B18C
   ported head, stock size Type R intake and Stainless steel exhaust
   valves, TB, 4 to1 header, exhaust, air intake, Type R cams, (VTEC
   will idle no matter how big the cams),  ECU with a 8600+ RPM limit.
   You can get 195-205 HP at the crank @ 8200 RPM
   15.0 to 14.6 1/4 on street tires in an Integra.

   Type R
   200 HP @ 8000, slight weight/gearing advantage
   15.0 to 14.6 1/4 on street tires

   Both motors will have about the same torque of 130 to 135 foot lbs,
   the b18b will have its peak 1000 RPM lower than the b18c.  The b18b
   with hi-comp pistons and huge cams should be able to put out
   the 195-205 HP numbers, and move its torque up 1000 RPM, but these
   cams would not be able to idle below 1200 or so.

   What is HP? It is torque X RPM.  Same size motor with Same CR and
   about the same VE you'll get about the same torque. I won't go into
   stroke vs bore and rod length ratios.  The above is should be true
   for the comparison (within reason). The B18B is bigger -vs- B18C has
   more CR, and less friction/ internal mass.

   What can the stock bottom ends take?
   NOS or Turbo
   The B18C bottom end is WEAKER than the B18A bottom end!
   I have seen so many post to the contrary.  I have both rods right
   here at my desk.  The B18C rod is  540 grams with a very thin
   beam. The B18B rod is about 580 grams with much thinker beam and rod
   shoulders. The B18C has higher CR so can't take as much NOS or boost.
   Say 6 PSI boost and 80 HP NOS.  Sure some people get more HP
   and some people tow their car home,  The B18B  has a way stronger
   rod and lower CR so you should be able to get 7.5 PSI boost and 100
   HP NOS.  B18C have a knock sensor....much safer.  B18C has a stronger
   block, oil cooled pistons, and a bridge for the main caps.  None of
   these seem to be weak points in the B18B.

   NA
   The B18C bottom wins here.  It has a higher CR, It has lighter weight
   rods, way better rod bolts (at least the look better), stronger
   block, oil cooled pistons.  RPM limit of 8600 no problem.  I think
   even 8800 RPM is safe.  I've had mine to 9200 RPM + many, many time
   over the last 4 years.

   The B18B's head can be milled for higher CR.  The B18B's rods are too
   heavy and bolts are  too weak for high RPM.  I have had my 1990 rev
   up to 8000 RPM. I would not take it higher on stock rods/bolts."

   From: "Michael Yepes" (mail@removed.com)
   ">in terms of NA power, the B18c maxed out will be faster
   >than a B18b1

   I agree here, but more hp, not necessarilly faster - depends on the weight
   of the car its in and gearing.

   -snip-
   > BTW: what are these b18b or c motors that you have built putting out
   > exactly @ the wheels?  Are there any other changes done besides the top
   > end?  Hi comp pistons?  Aftermarket FI?  built bottom end?  Bigger
   > injectors?...

   The engines I have personally seen built and will talk about use the
   stock EFI.  There are other mods I will explain.

   >Both motors are about the same size, about the same valve and ports,
   >same car, I would same they have about the same HP potential.

   HP potential is close, but the B18C does breath better, due to
   a different port design. As you stated, the vtec has lighter valvetrain
   for less friction.  It also has a shorter stroke for higher rpm usage.
   Spin it faster and you can make more hp.
   [Ed : Remember air + fuel == power, you gotta move a lot of air to make
    power at higher RPM's, otherwise don't bother!]

   >If we are going to limit our built motors to no
   >bottom end work (which is realistic) because of expense, here is what
   >I think can be achieved:

   Fair enough

   We built a 95 LS with a ported head (DPR), RC monster-bore T-body
   (66 or 68mm), Longer valves (so that rocker geometry is correct with
   reground cams), adjustable cam gears, and some big cams.  The
   head was milled and the engine runs at about 10:1 compression.
   He also has DC headers, Thermal exhaust, iceman intake, no cat.
   We tried 3 different cam sets, a medium grind from DPR that made 153 hp
   at the wheels, but still idled good (all dyno numbers are from a Dynojet
   dyno), a set of JG 301s that made 171 hp to the wheels, but we had to increase
   fuel pressure and the idle sucked. The last set was the newer Gude cams
   and they made 174 hp to the wheel, and their idle sucked too.  Actually,
   it sounds kinda cool, like blup, ba, bup-bup, bup, bup, bup-ba.  This
   particular car runs mid 13s on slicks.  He ran back to back 13.55s at 98+
   mph with some weight reduction.  If you consider a 14% loss of power through the
   drivetrain, this particular B18B makes around 202 hp at the flywheel.
   (his rpm limit was removed, and peak power is about 7500 rpm.
   Torque was about 138 or 139 to the wheels (161 ft lbs to the flywheel).

   I'll use my 95 GS-R as an example here.  I have a DPR ported head
   (stage 5). Stock valves (they're reshaped), DC headers, 2.25" exhaust,
   Iceman intake, 4mm overbore T-body (from RC), DPR intake cam,
   adjustable cam gears, and a 9000 rpm rev limit.  The head has been
   milled slightly, I'm guestimating a 10.5:1 CR.  I always run on 92 pump
   gas, and all dyno runs and drag strip runs were on 92 octane gas.
   When the cam gears were tuned, the engine made 187 hp to the wheels
   on a cool day.  This corrected to 185 (the dyno computer does this). My
   first run at Pomona raceway on my stock clutch (which I fried attempting
   a second run) was a 14.02 at 97.6 mph with M/T 22" slicks.  I am sure
   I will break 13s with a new clutch and lightened flywheel, and some more
   practice - I had a 2.0 60ft.  I sould be able to get 1.9s.  This was also
   done with the full interior (seats, a/c, power stearing, windows, cruise,
   ctrl, and the radio ON (I forgot to turn it off).  So I'm sure that with the
   antennae down I can drop .03 of my ET :).  Anyway if you consider about a 14%
   loss of hp through the drivetrain, your looking at about 217 hp to the crank on
   a cool morning.  Torque is 133 to the wheels (154 to the flywheel).
   This is a 100% daily driven street car.  If I went all-out (which I plan to do
   with my spare B18C"T"1 (still don't know what the "T" is for), I'm sure that
   well over 190 hp at the wheels can be attained.

   >Type R
   >200 HP @ 8000, slight weight/gearing advantage
   >15.0 to 14.6 1/4 on street tires

   Since its based on the GSR, see above.

   >Both motors will have about the same torque of 130 to 135 foot lbs,
   >the b18b will have its peak 1000 RPM lower than the b18c.

   You're right.  Also, the B18B made more HP and more torque than
   the C from about 2500-6000 rpm.  The B18C only made more hp
   than the B18B above 6000 rpm.  Since drag racing is from ~6000-
   8500+ rpm in a B18C, a GSR motor will be faster in a drag race.
   (if in identical cars with the same weight, traction, etc.)
   In other forms of racing where more of the rpms are used, the B18C will
   have much less of an advantage over the B18B. Unless they are stock.

   >The b18b
   >with hi-comp pistons and huge cams should be able to put out
   >the 195-205 HP numbers, and move its torque up 1000 RPM, but these
   >cams would not be able to idle below 1200 or so.

   But no one has done it yet, or at least done it correctly so that those
   numbers are achieved.
   [Ed : is it really worth the trouble/$$? Why not just start with a B18C in
    the first place? :) ]

   >What can the stock bottom ends take?
   >NOS or Turbo
   >The B18C bottom end is WEAKER than the B18A bottom end!
   >I have seen so many post to the contrary.  I have both rods right
   >here at my desk.  The B18C rod is  540 grams with a very thin
   >beam. The B18B rod is about 580 grams with much thinker beam and rod
   >shoulders.

   I dissagree only because the engineer I dealt with knew these
   engines extremely well.  The B18C's rods are made of a different
   alloy than the B18B's.  The C's rods are stronger because of this
   material and the method in which they are made.  (I don't remember
   the exact terminology, some of the stuff he was talking about was
   over my head.)  Gary Kubo used stock vtec rods that were shot peened
   in his turbo/nitrous vtec civic that made 371 hp to the wheels.  (This
   engine may have been a B16a though, but the rods are still the same
   as a B18C, but slightly thinner!

   >The B18C has higher CR so can't take as much NOS or boost.
   >Say 6 PSI boost and 80 HP NOS.  Sure somepeople get more HP
   >and some people tow their car home,  The B18B  has a way stronger
   >rod and lower CR so you should be able to get 7.5 PSI boost and 100
   >HP NOS.  B18C have a knock sensor....much safer.  B18C has a stronger
   >block, oil cooled pistons, and a bridge for the main caps.  None of
   >these seem to be weak points in the B18B.

   High CR bad for turbo/NOS.  Although GS-Rs with 9.0:1 pistons run
   10-14psi turbo setup on the street. But stock, a B18B, is better suited
   for a turbo since more boost can be run and the $$$ saved over the
   GS-R.

   >NA
   >The B18C bottom wins here.  It has a higher CR, It has lighter weight
   >rods, way better rod bolts (at least the look better), stronger
   >block, oil cooled pistons.  RPM limit of 8600 no problem.  I think
   >even 8800 RPM is safe.  I've had mine to 9200 RPM + many, many time
   >over the last 4 years.

   B18C is the way to go for NA hands down. (or maybe a B16a at 9500
   rpm, but thats a different story).  I've seen a few civics powered by
   B18Cs and B16As hit 13.1s, 13.2s, and even high 12s (Ramanan).
   Sheng's GSR hit 13.2x at 104mph last spring at Bakersfield, but his
   car is exremely light for an integra (totally gutted).  Actually, I think
   my car makes more hp than his, but his is so light.

   >The B18B's head can be milled for higher CR.  The B18B's rods are too
   >heavy and bolts are  too weak for high RPM.  I have had my 1990 rev
   >up to 8000 RPM. I would not take it higher on stock rods/bolts.

   My friend does not take his LS past 8200 when drag racing.  I've
   seen 9000 a few times on my GSR.  I usually take 1st gear to 9K
   (because it gets there so damn fast) and then about 8500 for 2nd,
   3rd gears.  When I road race, I don't go past 8300 or so."


4.0 Intake System

4.1 Why do I need a cold air intake?

For every 11 degrees (F) drop in temperature, expect a 1 horsepower gain.
   Expect performance to be worse if you're sucking in hot underhood
   temperatures. Colder air makes the motor run cooler as well as being more
   dense (remember Chemistry? PV = nRT?)

   From : Jerome Soh (mail@removed.com)
   "I believe the correct numbers are as follows:

   For every 10 F drop in temperature, expect a 1% (PERCENT, not
   horsepower) increase in power.

   For every 10 C drop in temp, expect a 3% gain."

   Editor : Does anyone absolutely sure which is it?
   10 or 11 degrees?


4.2 What's ram air?

A "ram air" setup is an intake method where the force of the car travelling
   through the air is used to literally ram air into the intake (a hood scoop
   is usually a good indication)

   From: Jerome Soh (mail@removed.com)

   "A "ram air" setup is an intake setup where the input end of the intake
   system is placed facing towards the front of the car such that it can
   take in air that is at a higher pressure than that in the engine bay
   when the car is at speed.  At 60 mph, a ram air setup can provide up to
   1 psi of boost, and at 100 mph, 2 psi of boost.  Thus, a properly setup
   ram air acts like a small turbo system at high speeds (and is "free").
   Keep in mind that extending the intake hose to make the ram air setup
   introduces pressure losses (albeit minor) as the air now has to flow
   through more pipe.  Thus, keep the extension as short as possible."


4.3 What air filter is the best? Will more dirt be let in?

There are many concerns about aftermarket performance filters working, and
   which yields the biggest horsepower.

   Some people swear by foam intakes (while dissenters say yes they yield more
   power, but let a lot of dirt in)

   Others are simply satisified by K&N or S&B filters. An oiled cotton
   filter. The idea being the porous cotton allows the air in, the oil traps
   the dirt. The K&N uses electrostatic charge to attract and capture dirt
   and dust. The oil is positively) charged, and therefore attracts dust
   and dirt, which carries a (negative) charge.

   Bottom line, a performance filter is better than the restrictive air box
   found on stock cars.

   IMHO, if tuner cars (Saleen, etc) come from the dealerships with exposed
   K&N filters, that means something about it's performance and filtering
   effect.


4.4 What intake system is the best?

Much like 4.3, a very heated issue. Apparently Honda motors respond very well
   to cold air velocity stacked setups.

   The current favorite is the Iceman Intake System. Check out
   http://integra.vtec.net/iceman.html for a review.

   Other intakes to check out are AEM's Cold Air intake as well as the Racing
   Sports Akimoto Funnel Ram2 (filter made by K&N now, not S&B)

   From: Anil Vootkur (mail@removed.com)
   "The Iceman is made out of some plastic polymer and has a joint (connected
   by rubber) near where the OEM airbox goes. It has a gradual increasing
   diameter away from the TB so there is no need for a velocity stack. The
   pipe continues from the OEM location and goes down into the passenger side
   fender well, near where the stock resonator was located. A tight turn and
   the filter is angled almost parallel to the ground. Dont know what size
   filter but it is constructed by K&N. You can get flashy colors, and
   convert the kit to a non cold air setup by connecting the filter where the
   rubber joint is instead of at the extreme end of the pipe.

   The AEM is made of coated aluminum to resist heat and is a 2.5-3" pipe I
   believe. There are no joints on this system. It simply curves down to the
   fender well, near where the stock resonator was located. A "turbo air
   horn" velocity stack connects the filter to the pipe.

   Both systems should give similar dyno results. I would expect no more than
   6-8 hp from either. Some people swear by ICEMAN, but I prefer AEM's design
   myself. Both cost around $210...but can probably be had for cheaper.
   ICEMAN is nice because of its versatility (dry land setup or wet land
   setup).  The AEM system is a full time dry land setup."

   You may also want to DIY and make your own effective intake kit with dryer
   hose for your cold air.

   Check out :
      http://integra.vtec.net/diyintake.html   and
      http://integra.vtec.net/intake.html

   Be careful with cold air systems as they may allow the engine to suck in water
   (in wetter areas) Excessive water in the engine will damage the engine
   seriously.


4.5 What's a bored out throttle body?

The throttle body is the device which regulates air into the engine via the
   gas pedal. By enlarging it's size you can allow more air to flow through
   (hence more power) Be careful removing too much material.

   Currently JG Engine Dynamics, RC Engineering, Bullfrog GUDE, and AEM perform
   the boring. Expect a gas mileage decrease too. A bigger throttle body helps
   aggressive cams idle better.	In fact some cams require a bored throttle body.

   Throttle bodies allow more air flow across the board, so you should
   see an increase in power across the RPM board of about 3-5hp.

   Throttle bodies should lean out air/fuel ratio so you shouldn't
   have a smog problem.


4.6 What's the coolant bypass modification?

Radiator fluid is passed through the throttle body to keep it from freezing
   shut. This also heats the air going into the motor. By removing the lines
   from the throttle body and connecting them together, you avoid the air
   heating up. So expect more power. Don't do this if it snows in your town.

   From Ali J. (mail@removed.com) :
   Another easy modification to cool things off is locating the coolant pipes
   that lead to the throttle body, and using a "Straight T" attach them.
   This will bypass the throttle body and keep it cool.   After all these
   modifications, I used an air temperature meter to compare this system and
   my AEM cold air system. The AEM system runs 72-152 degrees, while my system
   runs a cool 58-110 degrees.

   WARNING! You may not want to do this trick since it may cause your
   car's warming up idle to fluctuate! Somehow you need to warm up
   the fast idle thermo valve (which mounts on the underside of the TB and the
   hoses connect to). Once someone figures out how to keep this happy,
   it should be a streetable modification.


4.7 Why does my car idle bad after a t-body swap?

From: Matt (mail@removed.com)

   "Thanks to everyone that tried to help me out with my JG Throttle
   Body problems...  I have solved it!

   When I installed the throttle body, I disconnected the battery
   as to reset the ECU. For some reason it didn't reset I guess.

   I went out and purchased a Chiltons manual and tried what it
   said to disconnect the "BACKUP" fuse "HAZARD,
   BACKUP) <-for Canadian, in the underhood relay box.
   I then restarted the car, and it idled great!  I adjusted the
   idle screw back UP!  The opposite of what I thought.

   I don't know why the first ECU reset didn't do it, but the
   second time around solved it."

   Dan Ponze (mail@removed.com)
   "I had the same problem when I did my TB.  I couldn't figure it
   out for months.  It was fluctuating, and surging.  Finally, DPR suggested
   this and it worked.  The throttle position sensor is behind the TB and
   secured by two allen head screws.  Simply loosen them, and rotate the
   sensor up or down until idle is smooth.  Tighten the screws and you're
   done.  My idle is now perfect and it only took 3 months to figure out and 5
   minutes to do."


4.8 Why do I need to port match my intake manifold?

The throttle body mounts to the intake manifold. Honda also places a gasket
   to seal these two parts together. By enlarging the throttle body opening,
   the intake manifold and the gasket no longer match the throttle body's
   opening. Imagine trying to flow air through a 5 inch opening then suddenly
   run into a 4 inch section. This situation may hamper air velocity more
   than the added value of allowing more air through the throttle body itself.
   Be sure to get your intake manifold match ported.

4.9 What is extrude hone?

This is a process of pushing an abrasive mud-like compound through engine
   parts where air, fuel, or exhaust flow through. The parts become very
   smoothed out and to some extent enlargened. Speedline's DRAG turbo-equipped
   Integra showed a ~5++hp gain across the RPM board after an extrude honed
   intake manifold was added on. Probably doesn't make much of a difference on
   cars that aren't supercharged or turbocharged.


4.10 What's a resonator? Why should I remove it?

The resonator is a plastic box that is mounted below and joining to the
   stock air intake box. It's purpose is to silence the air entering
   your engine. By removing the resonator box you open up the engine
   to more cooler air. For all manufactured cold air intakes, you must
   remove the resonator. A good trick to do is to remove the resonator
   and put some dryer hose in it's place to further channel cooler
   air into the engine. See 4.4 for more info.


4.11 Why should I adjust my throttle cable?

As your new car breaks in, so does the throttle cable. It may develop
   slack over time that actually may prohibit you throttle body
   from ever seeing WOT. This is bad for power. If you have a friend
   press all the way down on the gas pedal, you can then verify
   the throttle cable is indeed opening the throttle body all the way.


4.12 Is there hope for a 88-91 Civic 1.5 SOHC with the lousy intake?

No. If you need reasons talk to JG Engine Dynamics. If you need a solution,
   swap in the Si intake manifold and computer. For that much trouble
   just go hybrid. Talk to Hybrid Joe for more info on both topics.

4.13 What is the Tornado and how does it work?

For their propaganda, visit their web site.

   From: anderson mail@removed.com
   "To those who don't know, The "Tornado" is some aluminum or tin
   circular doo dad wth angled fins that is placed in the air intake
   tube.  It's supposed to make the passing air swirl to better mix with
   the fuel for more power and efficiency.  They cost something
   ridiculous like $70+, and here is my experience.

   First of all, it was given to me, I wouldn't pay that for
   something claiming 10%+ or something in power (too good to be true).
   I put it in my '90 integra, just behind the K&N filter.  All it did was
   made a really neat sound.  Next time I checked on it, it had slid all
   the way to the throttle body and was sideways, so I got some tin and
   extended it, plus added a fin (yep, you can make your own).  I put it
   back in, I think in front of the TB, and went on a long trip.  I
   matched my previously best milage, 600Kms by the time the gas light
   comes on.??? Coincidence???  I had even wasted some gas on that trip
   racing a VR6.  Since then, there were no noticable gains, so I took
   it out and put it in my brothers civic and he didn't notice a thing.
   I think it's still there, probably sitting sideways."

4.14 How do I clean a HKS filter?

From : Tamgiao H. Nguyen (mail@removed.com)
   "> Does anybody knows how to clean the HKS super Power Flow air filter?

   The same question was posted to the list a while ago on 06/11 by Toto
   Gohan (mail@removed.com) and was answered by a few HPers. Perhaps
   those who created the HP FAQ should once again help make a HP
   Maintenance FAQ. (HKS PowerFlow maintenance is HP-related because the
   HKS PowerFlow system itself is HP-related.)"

   [Ed : I dunno, but it sounds like you're volunteering to do it!

   The Best Option IMHO : Buy a Banzai replacement foam. It's washable,
   reusable, and oilable. They use Uni filter oil (usually found in motorcycle
   stores. So if you need more oil, get 'em from there.]

   From : Jason Q Regala (mail@removed.com)
   "Robocar in LA told me it was. I tried washing it in water so all the dirt
   is gone. Then I sprayed a light film of WD-40 so the dust would be caught.
   I had no problems after that. Anyone else have any suggestions?"

   From: Young Song (mail@removed.com)
   "Most foam or gauze filters are washable.  First step is to check for
   damage - holes, rips.. Hold'em up to the light to find rips. If they're
   ok, then move on to cleaning.  I think the best way to clean them is to
   shake them up at first to get the bigger chunks off and then proceed to
   use a hose to spray the filter from the inside out.  Spraying it from
   the exterior would push dirt into the interior side of the filter, an
   undesirable result.  Also, set up your hose to not spray water at full
   blast but at a flow that will clean without breaking apart the
   material.  If the filter's a foam one, don't use the K&N cleaning kits
   as those will dissolve foam.  The cleaning kits are good for
   gauze/cotton reusable filters, which usually require re-oiling after
   cleaning.  Foamies just need to be air dried before being reinstalled on
   the intake..

   For the anally retentive, cleaning out the intake pipes might not be a
   bad idea since they sometimes get a thin coat of dirt.  Just make sure
   you dry the thing out before reinstalling.  It's not so hard to do so
   why not do it when you clean the filter too...

   After spray"

   From: RYAN B YEE (mail@removed.com)
   "well you can wash it but HKS recommends replacment every 3-5 months or
   3-5k kms... about 26.99"


5.0 Exhaust Systems

5.1 How loud do exhausts get?

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
   Or should it be : "Loudness is in the ear of the listener"?

   Some get really loud, some drone during cruising, some aren't really loud at
   all. It's very subjective and it's hard to judge without sound measuring
   equipment. Best thing to do is to listen to systems and note the pipe diameter
   and the muffler used.

   If you can hear the car coming from 10 blocks away, I'd say that's pretty
   loud.


5.2 Which manufactured cat back system is the best?

Much like the intake system, a very heated issue again. Current popular
   systems are Trust, Tanabe, RS*R, DC sports, and IMP.


5.3 I wanna save money and get a custom exhaust. What do I need to get?

Good for you! First you need to find a reputable custom muffler shop. 2.25"
   inch pipe is desirable for NA setups. For turbocharged think 3" piping.
   Mandrel bent (smooth bends) are ideal to ensure minimal back pressure.
   The muffler shop should be able to recommend a straight through muffler
   (Borla -- considered the best, Ultra Flo) correctly sized for your engine
    to minimize noise. And
   tips are your option. Remember stainless is better for life (salt on roads?)
   but much money. And to quiet down exhaust noise, a resonator is highly recommended.
   Make sure you get a properly sized resonator so as to not hurt your power.


5.4 What are headers?

These are the pipes leading from cylinder head down to underneath the car to
   the rest of the exhaust system. By replacing these restrictive pipes you can
   decrease backpressure and get more power.


5.5 Who makes the best headers?

Currently, DC Sports is felt to make the best horsepower header. Some say
   Lightspeed makes a better broad range header. 4-1 (4 pipes into 1) headers
   are the best design for high revving horsepower engines, but they give up so
   much bottom end power it's not practical on the street.
   Thankfully most/all manufactured systems are 4-2-1 designs.


5.6 How much power will I get by removing my catalytic converter?

Expect an increase, but it won't be earth shattering unless you're running some
   mean engine mods or a forced induction setup.


5.7 What are the legal consequences of removing my catalytic converter?

If you get caught in California, it's a pretty hefty fine. $2k? Don't play,
   if you can't pay.


5.8 Should I get a ceramic coated or stainless steel header?

Maybe both! ;D Stainless steel costs a lot of money. A good coating would cost
   another $100-$300. So you can see why manufacturers don't coat their stainless
   headers (and some people regard the purplish color of heated stainless headers
   as pretty) Stainless tends to be regarded as a longer lasting/stronger
   material, while mild steel can corrode/crack and fatigure under many heat stress
   cycles.

   A few owners of DC headers have had problems w/ the welds cracking on the
   stainless units.

   Anyhow, I would recommend ceramic coated headers to keep the heat inside
   the headers as much as possible. I've noticed the engine bay/hood areas
   pick up a lot of ambient heat from uncoated headers. Choose wisely!

   Remember, if you don't have a cold air intake : you could be picking up
   heated air from your aftermarket non coated headers!

   Oh BTW, use a lacquer thinner or similar solvent after installation, this
   will get all the crap/oil from burning into the header finish forever.


5.9 Should I buy a high-flow catalytic converter?

A high flow cat will outflow a stock cat. However, I doubt any cat can truly outflow
   a straight pipe in its place. ;D

   So do high flow cats really clean up the exhaust but let more flow through?
   An Integra with no cat @ idle shows about .220 ppm. Failure in California
   is .100 ppm. Average passing is .003ppm. The same Integra with a Random
   Technologies Cat put out about .120 ppm. So you're still emission wise
   illegal in California. BTW, the Integra ran perfectly clean anything
   above 2k RPMs.

   If you've got money to burn and only want to pollute the environment
   half as much for a little more power, then by all means buy a high flo
   cat.

   From: Zero Gravity GSR (mail@removed.com)
   "I have tried all three cat options, stock, high-flow, and test pipe.  Of
   the three I definitely like the Random Tech Cat.  best for all around
   performance and drivibilty.  It made a huge difference as opposed to stock
   up top, and down low was not really all that affected.  I am only running
   the test pipe right now because I plan on NOSing soon, and it seems to
   work better while on the bottle, plus I have heard of people clogging
   their cats while NOSing especially while on racing fuel (even if it is
   unleaded). Once I install the turbo I will be putting the high-flow Cat.
   back on.  The other advantage to running the Cat. in CA is that you
   don't have to worry about a $3000+ fine for not having one."

   Ed : I don't think it's CARB legal to replace your catalytic converter at
   all unless certain conditions have been met, and then you must
   use an OEM-spec one. Get solid info before buying one.


6.0 Nitrous Oxide

For more nitrous oxide info read http://www.primenet.com/~punchie/NOSfaq.htm
   Also check out http://www.gate.net/~shonline/nos.html.

6.1 Assorted Nitrous Oxide Information

From: FuSiONSi mail@removed.com (RoN)
   Subject: NOS jet sizes

   Now correct me if I am wrong but I thought that a dry system only fogged
   nitrous into the intake. Maybe I am wrong, well NE way here is the jet size
   for a wet system, maybe it might help you

   NOS             FUEL
   43              28       80hp
   41              26       70hp
   39              24       60hp
   37              22       50hp

   From: The Garden Weasel (mail@removed.com)
   Subject: Re: HP: NOS jet sizes

   jetting for a dry manifold NOS kit:
   40hp		34 nitrous/44 fuel
   50hp 	37 nitrous/42 fuel
   60hp		38 nitrous/42 fuel
   70hp		41 nitrous/36 fuel
   80hp*	44 nitrous/34 fuel+
   90hp*	46 nitrous/34 fuel+

   (*)Larger fuel pump reccomended/(+)requires a .040" shim be placed in
   the co2 regulator.(this is the large apparatus between the two solenoids
   the top will unscrew from it) you also may have to experiment with
   leaning out the fuel jet for maximum performance. Also make sure the
   line between the Stock fpr is hose clamped or that you are using the NOS
   fuel pressure safety switch otherwise you might break something you
   don't want to fix. later.


   From : Ryan Vanderwerf (mail@removed.com)
   Be careful with the dry system, the jet numbers go backwards from the
   wet/direct systems. (Ie. the higher the fuel number jet the LESS it flows).
   See turbo mag, May 96 issue for all the jettings to start with on all
   systems. I'm putting in a single fogger 60hp shot in my prelude today,
   I'll let you know what jettings we end up using.

   From : Elson Cho
   > Now correct me if I am wrong but I thought that a dry system only fogged
   > nitrous into the intake..maybe I am wrong...well NE way here
   Yea, that's right. Dry system injects nitrous into the intake. But there
   is a fuel "T" that connects to the solenoid and taps into the fuel line at
   the fuel pressure regulator. So when nitrous is injected, you need more
   fuel to compensate for this, thus the fuel jets. More nitrous, then more
   fuel. Basically, unlike the wet systems, its a single fogger with one
   outlet for the nitrous and the second part of this fogger is located at
   the "T" connector.

   From : Ken Woods (mail@removed.com)
   No. It's 13 parts air and one part fuel. The best A/F ratio for power is
   about 12.7:1, 14:1 is "normal" and 15:1 will get you the best gas mileage.

   If you can spray, and still run 12.7:1 in the upper RPM ranges, then your
   car will make ALOT of power.  If you jet it for 60HP, and then run 15:1,
   you will make less power than if you jetted for 50HP and ran 13:1.
   Make sense???  That's why I say to install the 34N, then watch the A:F.


6.2 How much NOS can my stock engine take?

1996-on Civic DX motor

   Elson Cho (mail@removed.com)
   "Not much. A 50hp system such as the 5122 dry manifold NOS kit would be
   safe on a stock block."

   B18 series motors :

   The upper limit on NOS capability seems to be around 80-120hp
   shot (direct port of course) You will need to add the appropriate
   fuel of course!


6.3 What kind of gains should I expect with NOS?

 

Elson Cho (mail@removed.com)
   "I've dropped about 1 full sec in the 1/4 with a 50hp dry system.
   It really depends on the type of car."

   Weyland Jung has performed in the mid to high 13 second range
   using a direct port setup on his (90-91) Integra GS. Off the giggle
   gas it's reported to run solid 15s.


6.4 How much does a refill of NOS Cost (15 pounds)?

 

Elson Cho (mail@removed.com)
   "In Seattle, Nitrous oxide goes for about $3.50/lb. 15 lbs is the weight of
   the bottle empty. There is 10 lbs of nitrous oxide in the bottle. So a
   full bottle weighs 25lbs, 10 lbs being the gas itself."


6.5 What causes NOS backfire? Why should I use a purge valve?

From : NETTORUN mail@removed.com
   "I had a backfire out of my filter once []. I was told by NOS that there was
   probably an air bubble in the lines. You can sometimes trap air when you are
   removing and installing the bottle. If you add a PURGE VALVE to your kit this
   will eliminate the chance of another inicident. I [] squeezed all night. I later had
   my mechanic check the car and he said it was o.k."


6.6 Real World NOS Damage Stories

From: "E. Cho" (mail@removed.com)
   "I was wondering if anyone out there can help me out. I have a 90 Accord
   running a NOS dry kit. Well today I was doing some test runs and the car
   didn't feel too good on nitrous. Bad smell too when on the bottle. I was
   running a 80shot. I know, I know, too much for a dry kit...but with an
   inline fuel pump and A/F gauge reading rich I thought it would be ok.

   So I checked the plugs...damn, looks like detonation. Then I checked
   compression. Cylinders one and four are low. Two and Three are fine. I
   know that the dry kit has bad distribution of nitrous in to each cylinder,
   especially #1, but why #4 also?"

   From: S*M*A*S*H*E*D (mail@removed.com)
   "For those of you who remember that i destroyed my engine cuz of too large
   of a jet with my dry manifold kit, i got my car back a few weeks ago with
   a bone stock 1.8 non-vtec motor.  well, the speed bug has re-bit my ass
   once again.. i called NOS tech and they said the reason i burnt my motor
   was cuz i was spraying way too close to the intake manifold. and the fact
   i was jetting close to 100hp didnt help either!  but the tech guy says to
   me, "if you wouldve tapped your intake pipe further from the TB, you
   wouldve been fine..." so i asked, "how far?" and he told me that the
   ideal placement for the nozzle is as far as you can get it from the TB!
   wait a sec, from the direction and instructions, and from what ppl have
   been telling me, its good to keep your nozzle tapped in FRONT of the
   butterfly in the TB.  the tech guy says that in his personal
   installations on hondas, he would snap the nozzle in half so that the jet
   would shoot straigh, and tap the end of of the k&n element... he said the
   reasoning behind this was so theat the nitrous would have ample time to
   mix with the oxygen and have a more dispersed shot rather than pure
   nitrous hitting the back of the intake manifold and just getting it into
   2 cylinders instead of all 4... makes sense right?
   he also said that the directions are made to look like the recommended
   tap was in the TB cuz they couldnt show the whole intake tract..."


7.0 Supercharging

7.1 What is it like ordering a supercharger from Jackson Racing?

Although it's not really a performance question, I'd thought I'd put a customer
   experience in just to see the hassle you get when using one of these things.
   Let alone the installation and use. ;D

   From: Young Song (mail@removed.com)
   "Okay..
   I've gone up to bat for Jackson Racing and their supercharger.. I stuck
   up for them and advocated their blower even though I don't have one... I
   even put in an order around end-Feb early-March...

   but dang it, after over a month of calling and waiting, I keep getting
   answers like "it will be ready in a week" or "call back in seven
   days"...  That's all I've been getting for the last month from them!

   and oh no... today, I called them and after they told me the
   supercharger wouldn't be ready yet, I did the unthinkable.. I criticized
   them for being slow in delivering the product I ordered... "So.. why is
   this taking so long?  I'm getting really impatient here.."

   and what do they do?  They act like total assholes on the phone!
   "You know, I'd be more than happy to cancel the order if that's what you
   want.."

   great service guys.  As a matter of fact, yes, if that is the kind of
   common courtesy you give to paying customers, then yes, I will cancel
   that order.

   Shoot.  Maybe Ken Woods was right after all..."


   From: Ozzie (mail@removed.com)
   "I read your mail message this morning and contacted Larry at ENDYN who
   called Oscar Jackson at Jackson Racing.  He stated that he had been in
   the orient